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echo: philos
to: BOB SEWELL
from: ANDREW CUMMINS
date: 1998-03-29 17:33:00
subject: `Existence Exists`

 -=> Quoting Bob Sewell to Andrew Cummins <=-
 AC> Biologically speaking, do you think the negro race has
 AC> the ability to compete with whites without the benefit
 AC> if preferential treatment?
 BS> Of course.  If I recall your previous anti-black stance, I'll
 BS> wager you disagree.
I'll note your failure to even attempt to provide
evidence supporting your position.
 BS> If so, what is your evidence?
Annually, billions of dollars are transferred from the white
community to the black community just through normal socialist
programs (e.g. welfare and education).  Billions of dollars more
are transferred to blacks through race-based practices such as
contract set-asides and racial preferences in hiring.  And,
billions of dollars are kept in the black community through
race-based protectionist behavior.
In spite of all that, blacks are still 2nd-rate citizens.  What
do you think would happen if we stopped all the preferential
treatment and equally enforced anti-discrimination laws?
 BS> Empirical and anecdotal.  I've seen almost as many successful,
 BS> hardworking blacks who've pulled themselves up by their own
 BS> bootstraps without preferential treatment and/or gov'ment aid as I've
 BS> seen white trash who have allowed themselves to spiral down into
 BS> poverty and whined about it the whole way down how it's all the black
 BS> man's fault.
No doubt, there's plenty of white trash.  But, by the criteria
that earns a white man the label of "trash" there's a much greater
proportion of blacks that meet that criteria.  As for those
hardworking blacks you speak of... I'm more concerned with the
black community than with individuals.  After all, we treat
people according to their race.  If you object to that, you
have all of my support.
BTW, the vast majority of well-known successful blacks have
either benefited from Affirmative Action or their accomplishments
so minor that they would be unknowns if white.
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