From: "Bill Mattox" 

This has NOTHING to do with law and order (which I support for actual
crimes of violence, BTW); but rather, like forfeiture laws which also
ignore our Constitutional rights , is the exact opposite.

This incident is bigger than the boy. This kneejerked, unauthorized,
jackbooted mentality is a relatively new -- and very frightening -- trend.
As many appear to be in the process of adjusting to it and thinking it
normal, I only wish the American people would stop and think how quickly
our freedoms are being eroded.

"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
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> First, I do understand that there was no warrant for the entry.  That's
why I
> characterized the raid as illegal and the removal of the boy as a
kidnapping.
>
> Second, I think these actions are the logical extension of a trend toward
> increasing police power (at all levels) that began with Richard Nixon's
"law and
> order" rhetoric, was accelerated by the "war on drugs"
hysteria encourated
by
> Ronald Reagan (the Great Demagogue), and in which Bill Clinton is a
willing and
> enthusiastic participant.
>
>
>
> Bill Mattox wrote:
>
> >That was my inital thought. The problem, however, is that Cuba is NOT
> >America and that father will not be the one with rights to the child. He
is
> >clearly being threatened (family members back in Cuba, including another
> >child, have been removed to a special location and have not been seen)
and
> >so he cannot speak freely, even while here. Cuba has also made it clear
that
> >Elian will be seperated from his father upon return and placed in a
> >re-education facility (i.e., he is going to be brainwashed, big time).
> >
> >The recent court ruling was to allow the child an opportunity to have as
> >fair a shot at due process as possible under the circumstances rather
than
> >to simply step on his rights in a hasty, self-serving way, as
Clinton/Castro
> >are obviously inclined to do. A potentially dangerous early morning raid
was
> >not necessary to complete that task, which will have a definite end-point
no
> >matter where the child resides during the process. The raids only purpose
in
> >the interim will be to place the child in a position where he can be
> >spirited out of the country prior to recieving all of his court-ordered
> >rights.
> >
> >But... being above the law, of course, IS the Clinton way.
> >
> >(BTW, you do understand that the armed raid was conducted without a
warrant,
> >don't you?)

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