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From: Danny Caccavo 
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Subject: Re: How Do You Sleep With No Bottom
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In article ,
 Dave Hinz  wrote:

> On 18 Oct 2004 20:43:18 GMT, Lord Hasenpfeffer
 
> wrote:
> > Has anyone else noticed how the guts have been removed from
"How Do You 
> > Sleep?" on the remastered version of "Imagine"?
> 
> I'm very unhappy with the mix on that album, and with the mix on the
> redo of Let It Be.  Buried the damn guitars, it's all drums and vocals.
> WTF is that about?
> 
> > I always loved that song for it's heavy bass - arguably Yet Another Dig 
> > at Paul who's known primarily for playing bass (in addition to the 
> > obvious lyrical content).
> 
> Yes.
>  
> > The original CD version has plenty of bass but overall muddy sound.
>  
> > The remastered CD version sounds much cleaner but the bass has all but 
> > been mixed out of the song!  WTF???
> 
> Maybe they don't have much to work with, but yes, it sounds like crap.
>  

So many remixes sound like crap because many mixing engineers nowaways 
are not focused on the most important thing - which is, "is x loud 
enough?"

I listened to the remixed Imagine album once, and that was enough for 
me. I don't care that the original is muddy. It's just a better balance.

(self-snipped diatribe on how the YS remixes mostly suffer from the same 
problem, since you've heard me vent many times before).

It's not rocket science to remix this stuff.  The very least they should 
do is sync up the originals, and do an A/B comparison when they think 
they're done with the remix - that instantly reveals any problems.  A 
good engineer can remix something so close that it could be edited back 
into the original without notice.

Note that George Martin did that side by side comparison with the RS and 
Help remixes back in '85/86.  He took the original stereo mixes and 
dubbed them onto two tracks of the digital multitrack so he always had 
them to reference to.  Comparitively, there are no problems with those 
remixes.

dc

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