>>to the pt and avoiding abandonment.  If I was to stop for an accident,
  >>it is my understanding that I can only turn responsibility over to
  >>someone who has my level of training or higher.  Consequently if the FD
  >>arrives and they are trained as first responders (hey, I live in the
  >>sticks - mostly volunteer and not much formal training for FD), I could
  >>not leave the scene until EMS or another EMT arrived.  In that
  >>particular case, It would be wrong of me to leave even if it meant that
  >>I had to leave my vehicle at the scene and go with the PT if the FD had
  >>to transport.  If, however, the FD came on scene and one of them was an
Well, that isn't necessarily true.  Since you have no toys, you're just
a guy.  They have toys, therefore they beat you.
As an EMT-P, your concept would mean that I would have to go with the
BLS unit for a fractured ankle since they were "just EMT's" and I'm an
EMT-P.   No true.   The assigned responding agency (in PA) has
jurisdiction over the off-duty EMT/EMT-P.
Our county had this discussion with an EMT-P who decided that he wasn't
going to turn over pt care to the EMT's that arrived since he was a
medic and he didn't feel comfortable with the skills/attitude of the
EMT's.   Needless to say, then dude was "cuffed and stuffed", the EMT's
handled the patient, who was a class 3 (minor), and once the pt left in
the ambulance, the Police (and EMT's) dropped charges and cut this guy
loose.  (professional courtesy thing)
Well, he decided to pursue the matter further and all hell broke loose.
The EMT's eventually won and it was noted that the ASSIGNED RESPONDING
AGENCY will take precedence over the off duty EMS provider since the
agency's vehicles are licensed ambulances with equipment, and a POV is
not.
Michael Garvin, EMT-P
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