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from: Felix Miata
date: 2004-04-20 10:41:02
subject: Re: Need a New Computer

David Wei wrote:
 
> Felix Miata wrote:
 
> >For those who believe only the best will do, certainly the Celeron has
> >to be ruled out. However, for those who, like me, believe a multi GHz is
> >gross overkill also long as I/O and RAM bound, which is the current
> >state for most users, there really isn't a whole lot of seat of the
> >pants speed to be sacraficed. . . .
 
> No, no, no... I don't believe that only the best will do. P4 2.4(A)GHz
> is somewhat crippled in that HyperThreading is disabled, and uses a
> lower bus speed.

Non-HT (non-800 FSB) P4 CPUs are getting hard to find. The only one I
ever used was 800 FSB at 800 FSB.

Note that according to Scott G HT is not and will not be supported in
OS/2. HT is disabled for everyone running OS/2.
 
> Now, fast forward a bit, Intel introduced P4 Based Celeron... Now this
> thing is even more castrated than the old Tualatin Celeron, which is way
> more efficient clock per clock, and have 2x as much cache. The
> performance figure was terrible. You can get much better performance
> with a SLOWER but "full featured" CPU rather than a faster but cut
> corner version of it. Only programs that don't multi-task, not memory
> intensive AND small enough to fit into the tiny cache would make that
> CPU work at its max speed. But that don't happen very often because of
> the super small cache.

As I said, the seat of the pants difference is small, and the I/O
limitations make high CPU performance at any cost a bad bargain. My
Sysbench tests indicated about 20% better RAM benchmark from 800 FSB
over 400 FSB, a poor bargain from a CPU costing more than double the
slower Celeron.
 
> Take a look here, budget CPU shootout, it should have more than enough
> info on showing where each CPU would excel, and where it won't.
 
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1927&p=4

I don't install plugins. Is there some other page that shows whatever
that one thinks Flash is required to do?
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