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to: Janis Kracht
from: Rick Van Ruth
date: 2002-11-30 20:06:58
subject: NodelistGuide or FAQ

G'Day Janis,

30 Nov 02 00:30, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

 >>> So 3 nets lose connectivity IP wise for the sake of one
 >>> system to use a format that no software supports anyway....

 >> That is the problem with this way of doing things. I am sure it is well
 >> meant, but it is obviously not well thought through. One has to have
 >> the software FIRST.

 JK> Actually we do have the software, from what I understand.  The problem
 JK> was being patient in hearing whether David Hallford was still available
 JK> to create his binkp lists, etc., in the IP-Nodelist fdn, or whether he
 JK> was giving up that fdn.  All netmail and e-mail posts to him have failed
 JK> in the last 2 weeks, so I am about to have the author of this other
 JK> software take over and release the nodelists for IP-Nodelist fdn, or
 JK> start another FDN.  He's just waiting for the 'go ahead'.

 JK> Other software like BBBS's mailer may even support the new INA flag and
 JK> I intended to test it more thoroughly this weekend. It was rough to
 JK> think of doing the testing before our holiday on Thursday
 JK> (Thanksgiving), and I've been a little ill recently (getting better now,
 JK> though ).

 JK> The statements I've seen about 'broken software' haven't explained
 JK> exactly what the problem was that breaking anything.

 JK> If these nodes are using a mailer like Argus, the information in their
 JK> config hasn't changed.. if they're using a mailer like BINKD, that
 JK> hasn't changed either.  If they're using something that reads a person's
 JK> node info from the nodelist I'd like to know what software that is. I
 JK> could be wrong here.

As said before, some software does read directly from the nodelist including
mine. Thus the INA flag destroys the lookup for the system to connect to.

eg1: Bad node listing with INA flag:  1:379/1201

System      : King's Dominion BBS
Sysop       : Chris Cranford{at}f1201.n379.z1.fidonet.org
Location    : Charlotte NC
Phone       : 1-704-596-0938
Speed       : 33600
Flags       : V34,V90S,IBN,IFT,CM,XB
P Flag      :
Uplink      : 379/1200
Region      : 18

.. no longer any fqdn or ip to connect with...

eg2: good node listing without INA flag: 3:712/848

System      : sysgod.org
Sysop       : Scott Little{at}f848.n712.z3.fidonet.org
Location    : Riverwood NSW
Phone       : 61-2-9596-0284
Speed       : 9600
Flags       : IBN,IFC,CM,
P Flag      :
Uplink      : 712/0
Region      : 54

Software knows it can connect to sysgod.org using either binkp or raw (ifc)
protocol.

I run MBSE, it works directly off the nodelist and follows FTSC standards.



Cheers,
                Rick

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