RS> This detail on whether the problem is with the Supra or the Spirit is
 RS> all a bit superfluous now I discovered the problems Arthur had
 RS> downloading from a Spirit with a Maestro, detailed in another message
 RS> in this REP. But I have left this earlier detail in, mainly cos it goes
 RS> thru some of the detail.

Yes, it's certainly looking conclusive.  Thank god someone else has found
it, and with a modem that may actually be available for further tests,
instead of us having to do all the trailblazing ourselves.

 RS> I also havent made it clear enough that the Spirit problem doesnt bother
 RS> me at all now that we appear to have a workaround in using MNP4 instead.
 RS> Infact MNP4 is marginally faster than V42 anyway so its no problem at
 RS> all from my point of view. Presumably the Spirit problem will eventually
 RS> bite enough people to actually get it fixed.

What do you mean it's faster?  You're getting throughput of about 100%
instead of 108-115%.

 PE>>> It is likely a bug in your modem, asking for the block to be resent
 PE>>> all the time.

 RS>> But not reporting that its doing that with the status display on the
 RS>> front of my modem. Unlikely if its asking for a retransmission of
 RS>> every single block, as it must be doing for the thruput to halve.

 PE>> That's why it's called a bug, Rod.  After it works out whether to
 PE>> blink or not, a bit is set and something else resends.

 RS> But that would mean 2 bugs, it asks for resends on every block it
 RS> receives when thats not necessary, and it fails to show that on the
 RS> error status display too. Not all that likely. Possible, but get less
 RS> and less likely.

It seems pretty academic now, but I still don't see how you draw this
conclusion.  The code that is in error could be AFTER the decision to make
the light flash or not.  I've seen enough bugs in my life to know that
ANYTHING is LIKELY.

BTW, I still think that this bug in the Spirit's V42 ROM code has
absolutely nothing to do with the Earthing problem, as I'm sure you'll see
in the response to the question I asked of Dave Hatch in the Spirit echo. 
BFN.

P.S. The reason I didn't get any information from Meng Shi-Lim or whoever
was because it was vague enough to suggest anything you care to name.  Bit
like Nostradameus really.

Paul

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