One of the Christian paradoxes; that we would *need* saving.  One 
tenet of quantum math, is that you *cannot* predict outcome, only 
state the *probability* of a given outcome.  The problem I see in 
the concepts of sin and damnation, is that they are outcomes, but 
are not predictable in any given person at any given time.   
 
 MB>  DB> The MRI shows the dramatic effect on the rational mind of drugs,  
 MB>  DB> environmental pollutions, and hormone imbalance that *sometimes*  
 MB>  DB> will, or sometimes will not, have on the thinking process.  Most  
 MB>  DB> psychological studies of behavior show a chaotic distribution on  
 MB>  DB> a given trend line so that while you can predict that some number 
 MB>  DB> of individuals will be irrational, you cannot tell who, or when.  
 MB>  DB> It is the abundance of chaotic variability that has made progress 
 MB>  DB> so slow for my planet, my race, and me.  
 MB>   
 MB>  Agreed, Day, that there is no reliable way for us to predict who or 
 MB>  when a given person will be irrational - but that is not to say it 
 MB>  is not already known who will be irrational.  But how that can help 
 MB>  us on our quest for "progress"; all we can do is not quite trying - 
 MB>  but never _ever_ delude ourselves as to what "progress" actually 
 MB>  _is_. 
Zoroaster made progress by pointing out that what was regarded as 
'evil', was in fact, the result of dementia and ignorance.  Where 
most folks find evil, I *always* see irrationality, and so to say 
that evildoers deserve hell and damnation, looks irrational. 
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