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echo: filegate
to: Janis Kracht
from: Gert Koefoed Andersen
date: 2005-05-22 22:14:16
subject: trouble :(

Hello Janis.

22 May 05 00:43, you wrote to me:

 >>>>> One of the things you agreed to (and I guess forgot
) is that
 >>>>> you _should never_  hatch the same files in two different FDNs.
 >>>>> Especially 20+ Meg files!!

 >>>> Yes, and after I had hatched the files I come throu that I just
 >>>> should have hatched those files in only PASFREE echo as they is
 >>>> from Free Pascal.

 >>> Definitely :)

 >>>>> _Please_ don't do something like this again.. if you see a file
 >>>>> that would be of interest to say the pascal-net
people, then let
 >>>>> them know with a message in the Pascal Echo where they can find
 >>>>> the file in LNX4APPS.... or vice versa! Just don't (_please_
 >>>>> don't) ever hatch the same file in two FDNs.  I thought you
 >>>>> understood this in the filegate policy?

 >>>>> I've had complaints from some people about this, and I don't
 >>>>> blame them at all!!

 >>>> Next time will I see if I can remember to hatch files in only one
 >>>> echo if the files is really big ones, nad is they is smaller files
 >>>> and could go to several nets files echo copy the files to
 >>>> different names

 >>> Don't you understand, Gert, it is still a problem :(

 >> Yes I do..

 JK> Thank you for understanding :)  We had this problem long ago when
 JK> Modems and phone lines cost us a lot of  $$ and disk space..Now that
 JK> those issues are not so bad we still have other issues :)  The bottom
 JK> line is that people do not want duplicate files across many FDNs on
 JK> their systems :)  Some people pay for bandwidth, and it's a pain for
 JK> them, just like those Long Distance telephone calls.

got it.
I and now self onto trting to getting the old modem mailer BinkleyTerm
(BTXE) setup and in same time the Fastlst program.

 >>> If you change the name of the file just so you can get around the
 >>> policy, that is not right.  Downlinks (and users) who download
 >>> files don't want the same file with different names!

 >>> There are ways around this problem.. one is to do what I mentioned
 >>> earlier, let people know in "announce messages" in
the echos where
 >>> the file is located if it is not released in the
"other" file echo.

 >>> Another thing you could do is send the files out to your Pascal-net
 >>> or 4Lnx fdn downlinks, and then  _don't_ also send them here except
 >>> out to one FDN.

 >>> We have to do things this way, this is important.

 >> Yes this will done the next times, with only files in one file echo
 >> fdn and self if the files could be to other nets echo just send out
 >> to one fdn on filegate and only i *one* fdns and if people could or
 >> can use the file and lik it they can se the the fles echo and where
 >> it can be found by the announcng i sending out in announce echoes.

 JK> That sounds great :)  Thank you so much Gert :)

Right now is there a hole in my getting of the R50 FDNs and other FDNs as
my deliever of them not has been to gettng things from and checkig on for
special files from R50, so I now looking now for another good system in R50
to getting the files from.


Gert

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