Kris Steenhaut schrieb:
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> David Eckard schreef:
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> 
>>In , on 12/03/2004 
>>  at 01:05 AM, Kris Steenhaut  said:
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>>>Simple human being question:
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>>>What's a subnet?
>>>   
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>>Your going to get more than you asked for.
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> 
> No doubt.
> 
> Sid told me it's so straightforward as straightforward can be.
> 
> "But mind the "subnet!" was your remark...
> 
> 
>>zeros.  The portion of the mask containing ones is the network address. 
>>The rest where the zeros are is the host ID.  
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> 
> ... and now I have to make an entire investigation on the well beings of 
> the "subet" and my "internal network". Guess if I
have an internal 
> network, I must have an external network to.

No! The only you needs a router to.

  Hitherto I even didn't know
> there were things like that on my computer. But if you say I do have 
> things like that, I'm sure they must be around somewhere.

No need to know exactly.

> Anyway, without anything to test avaible yet the only thing I can do for 
> now is save your and Sid's messages for later reference, for I still 
> have to find where to purchase an isdn-adsl-pppoe device router. 
> Apparently Zyxel doesn't sell the device in Belgium, so I have to look 
> abroad once more.
> 
> Meanwile, pardon me to say, It is nor straightforward nor easy. Only 
> problem is you learned guys always keep telling it's straightforward and 
> easy.

It IS straight forward and easy to setup your computer and local net 
for connecting to internet:

A   use the software router like eCSConNet (eCS 1.1 CD#2) or injoy
or
B   use a hardware router

The only difference between them is:
A needs the computer connected to internet needs to be
   up and running when another computer has to connect to internet
   in setup.cmd:
   ipgate ON  - the computer running ISDNPM/eCSConNet/injoy
                because the computer running the router is your gateway
   ipgate OFF - else
   When you owns more than one computer the computer having the
   software router running needs 2 ethernet network cards installed
   when you have DSL - else it will connect the internet through either
   modem or the ISDN card.
   lan0 (the first one) for your local net
   lan1 (the second one) for connecting the internet

B only the comnputer needs connect to internet must be on.
   ipgate OFF - all computers because the router is the gateway

In both cases you have to configure the router:
- its IP it needs to be member of your local net
- a flag set that decides if your computer (router) gets
   its IP from your IP when dialing in or is static.
   Most ISP will give you a dynamic IP.

Hint: when you likes to save money but will spemd an extra amount for 
an hardware router you should decide if you needs really a DSL/IDSN 
router or a DSL router. The latter is much cheaper. You would get it 
in your local computer shop for significanly less than 100 Euro.

Hint: even if you have currently only ONE computer
- avoid USB!
- avoid AVM (my provider internal newsgroups are full of problems with 
even under Windows).
- avoid internal (PCI) cards. They are useless because any software 
router can replace them - and you got with eCS 1.0 and 1.1 one for free.



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