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to: Bronwyn Alderton
from: Hamish Moffatt
date: 1995-07-25 17:42:00
subject: NIGHTOWL 15 AND ENCARTA

Hello Bronwyn!

Sunday July 23 1995 19:15, Bronwyn Alderton wrote to Hamish Moffatt:

 HM>> Can you prove that? Did you use a serial packet sniffer or some other
 HM>> interception device to show you all data transmitted? Did you decrypt
 HM>> it where necessary?

 > Easy, the modem isn't plugged in, turned on or connected to the phone
 > unless I wanna use it.  I don't think my modem can sneak a call out without
 > me knowing...  Who needs all that other stuff????

The claim was that MSN transmits this data without your permission. Clearly
it is not even possible to _connect_ to MSN without your modem connected,
so the above is not any proof at all.

 HM>> Having nothing to hide does not mean you need to leave your doors open
 HM>> completely. I have nothing illegal in my house, but that doesn't mean
 HM>> I need to invite the neighbours, local police, etc in for an
 HM>> inspection. Microsoft have no right to inspect for their property
 HM>> without prior warning.

 > *Geez!!!*  There is reference to this in the manual, why DO YOU KEEP saying
 > it's a hidden feature?  This is just a case of Microsoft bashing.

The problem is not that it's sent, it's that permission is NOT asked. Or if
it is, your response is ignored. Or so it would seem. You have not been
able to prove otherwise, and it would certainly be within Microsoft's
typical ethical boundaries.

 > and hey, if you owned a business and were losing 90% of your stock to
 > theft, wouldn't you be looking at ways of stopping it?  I would!!!

Not if they are illegal.

 > There are cameras & other security devices in stores, bags are searched
 > when leaving a store...

With your knowledge. If you won't consent to that you don't enter the
store. MS may not be giving you any choice.

Regards,
Hamish

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