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echo: pol_disorder
to: Ed Hulett
from: Mimi Gallandt
date: 2009-04-11 22:52:10
subject: Clueless 7

Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 RS>>>>>>>>>> Remember Red China?
 RS>>>>>>>>>> The US does lots of business with them.

 RS>>>>>>>>>> Remember Vietnam?
 RS>>>>>>>>>> The US does lots of business with them.

 RS>>>>>>>>>> So why is that asinine embargo
still in place?
 RS>>>>>>>>>> Easy answer: Battista's old
goons and their suckers, living in
 RS>>>>>>>>>> FloriDUH.

 RS>>>>>>>>>> Castro and his brother are
getting OLD, dummy.
 RS>>>>>>>>>> It won't be that long until they die.

 RS>>>>>>>>>> But right-wing terrorists who
blew up a Cuban plane?
 RS>>>>>>>>>> Oh that's different!

 JB>>>>>>>>> If Cuba is so nice, why don't you
move there ?  The weather is
 EH>>>>>>>   warmer JB>> and they are fully
socialist, so the government
 EH> will
 EH>>>>>>>   take care of you, JB>> just like
the US does today.

 RS>>>>>>>> NO, shit for brains.

 RS>>>>>>>> Drop the embargo and begin trade with
Cuba, like the US does
 EH>>>>>>>   with Red RS> China and Vietnam.

 EH>>>>>>> What does Cuba produce that we can't get elsewhere?

 RS>>>>>> I don't know, right now.
 RS>>>>>> What does Vietnam produce that we can't get elsewhere?

 EH>>>>> Rubber and cork.

 RS>>>>>>>> Once the Cubans se teh goods we
Americans enjoy, it's a sure
 EH>>>>>>>   thing they RS> will dump their
socialist bullshit.

 EH>>>>>>> They still drive 1958 Chevys. And no, they
won't dump their
 MG>>>> communist
 EH>>>>>>> government.

 RS>>>>>> How do you know? Your "Magic 8-Ball" tell you?

 EH>>>>> Did your magic 8-ball tell you they would?

 RS>>>>>>>> I mean, the embargo has done so well
ending communism in Cuba...
 RS>>>>>>>> (Sarcasm off)

 EH>>>>>>> Dropping it won't end it either.

 RS>>>>>> The embargo SURE did end communism in Cuba...
(Sarcasm off)

 EH>>>>> Dropping it won't either.

 MG>>>> Point of order; Vietnam may call itself socialist, but
they're far
 MG>>>> closer to capitalism than they are to socialism. They have open
 EH>>> borders
 MG>>>> and tourists go there all the time. This is just
another example of
 EH>>> Otto
 MG>>>> not having the tiniest clue as to what he's spewing.

 EH>>> Same with China.

 MG>> Yeah, isn't it amazing how quickly China changed after their
 MG>> reacquisition of Hong Kong?  I'm sure their government is still
 MG>> dictatorial and corrupt, but nothing like when Mao was alive.

 EH> Yes, they remain a dictatorship, but they were forced to embrace
 EH> capitalism when they realized they wanted to trade with the rest of the
 EH> world. China ans Vietnam actually have something the world needs. Cuba
 EH> is a small island and only have sugar and tobacco to export. Since we
 EH> are the only country to have any restrictions on trade with Cuba, there
 EH> is little chance that if we lifted those restrictions Cuba would change
 EH> their government.

True. Something odd about our immigration rules for Cubans. There's this
wet feet dry feet thing. If they catch a Cuban before he reaches the beach
he gets sent back, if he makes it on to the beach he gets to stay. Cuba is
the only country that we use this policy on. Apparently the thinking is
that one less Cuban for Fidel to dictate to the better.

In the same way that my views on the Mexican border have changed my views
on Cuban immigration has too. Terrorists could just as easily come from
Cuba as from Mexico. I think the border we need to worry the most about is
the Canadian one. It's a very lax process and it's far longer than the
Mexican one.


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