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to: Matt Bedynek
from: Ross Cassell
date: 2004-08-01 15:17:20
subject: Nodelist format

Hello Matt!

01 Aug 04 13:31, you wrote to me:

 MB>>> code on a makenl program when you do not know what purpose the
 MB>>> various nodelist flags serve.  Might be wise to read. :-)

 RC>> and why must you go out of the way to take a dig at someone?

 MB> Maybe because I do not like being told that "I do not know
technology"
 MB> or "have not been in Fidonet long enough" when I do and I have by

But you on the otherhand like telling others what they know, dont know and
generally think the rest of us should regard you as the father of Fidonet?

 MB> ambiguity.  Is this the same style of reading some of you have been
 MB> using on policy within the last year?  It might explain the friction
 MB> that has been found in recent months.  Selective reading or selective
 MB> understanding?  I would really like to know ..

Unless your powers of observation have malfunctioned, I have been
relatively and noticeably absent from all that in many months, you dont
want me jumping back into that do you?

 RC>> It doesnt have to about the topic at hand, only that you go out
 RC>> of the way to belittle someone who may disagree with you or has
 RC>> disagreed with you about something in the past?

 MB> Your bias is showing, Ross.  You crawl back out of the woodwork to
 MB> defend and suck up to anyone who downlinks from you completely
 MB> overlooking anything that they do which may be offensive to others.
 MB> Just like old times ..

Oh so you think I am sucking up to Robert in this instance?

Thats odd, I made a echo I had available for Bjorns use for the makenl
project, when Robert went a little heavy handed in his new echo, some suck
up job to Robert eh?

pssst. There really are corpses of little green men at Roswell.

 RC>> Just because you think you are never wrong, its not going to get
 RC>> you very far to endear yourself to others and its your attitude,
 RC>> inevitably displayed by one or more people as to why these
 RC>> endevours nearly always fail..

 RC>> Good Program Matt!

 MB> Fidonet is not going to get very far with people like Robert (maybe
 MB> even you) at the helm.

Who says I am at the helm or Robert is at the helm of anything?

Fidonet sure as hell aint going to go very far with you with your attitude
at the helm..

You tend to alienate more people than you unite.

 MB>   The ones who truely do not understand
 MB> technology or have not been around long enough; who draw lines of
 MB> agreement based on politics.  Instead of automatically telling
 MB> everyone else they are wrong and that they are ignorant, a better
 MB> response might have been, "I believe you are wrong but I will
check."

Not unreasonable, why didnt you suggest this to Robert instead of taking
the swipe at him?

You know about that honey and vinegar thing dont you Matt?

 MB> So, Ross, did you know what the MN flag was really used for or did you
 MB> assume Robert's claim to automatically be true.  You read my reply so
 MB> obviously you read his messages about the subject.  If you knew he may
 MB> have been wrong why did you not correct him?  Unless you too did not
 MB> know its intended usage?

I wasnt commenting on Roberts accuracy, I only comment on your negativity,
thats it, the long and short of it, nothing more..

Any of this technical stuff that is supposed to or intended to lead to
positive change is gonna require everyone to leave their self-righteous and
arrogance filled ego's at the door, this also includes you.

==
Ross
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