Richard Town wrote in a message to Wes Newell:
 RT> The point is that USR was late into the V32bis arena, preferring to
 RT> try and force their proprietary HST at 14k4 instead.
Do you happen to remember the cost of a v.32 modem at the time that USR 
originally offered HST modems?  And for bonus points, when did USR offer 
their initial v.32bis capable modems in relationship to the ratification of 
the v.32bis recommendation.
 RT> They tried it on with V.FC, but that was a V42bis glitch if 
 RT> memory serves, after being late there too preferring to hold on to 
 RT> their proprietary 21k6 and then go to V34 directly.  They, as I've 
 RT> proved, did do it at V34+/V34Plus, and have definately definately 
 RT> done it in UK code at x2 denying any "foreign" V34 calls at all.
Minor nit being that v.32terbo was an AT&T invention and not an USR 
invention. Hardly proprietary to USR.  As for the rest of your fantasies, I'm 
beginning to wonder if you might consider seeking professional help for your 
paranoia about USR.
 RT> Add to this the decision to stay out of 56k Open Forum, go to fax
 RT> Class2.0 before ratification and not offer Class2, refuse to
 RT> recognise extended V42 commands...
 RT> ... their lovelyness goes on and on
Horsepuckey.  USR went with Class 2.0 *AFTER* it was ratified not before 
despite your revisionist views.  Until Class 2.0 was ratified, USR 
implemented only Class 1 -- another ratified standard.  You might wish to 
remember that implementing a draft with their own modification seems much 
more typical of Rockwell -- remember V.FC?  Despite your attempt to portray 
Class 2 as a standard, Class 2 was never anything more than a preliminary 
draft.  As for extended V42 commands?  I seem to remember that my Couriers 
connected with SREJ to ZyXEL modems well before Rockwell got around to 
offering SREJ.  Of course, in your fantasy world that could never happen.  Or 
do you mean Rockwell's bending the v.42 recommendation to implement their 
extended MNP signalling?  Of course, that was done after long and careful 
consideration and testing to ensure that it would not cause problems for 
other manufacturer's modems -- NOT!
Regards,
       David
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