Don{ald} O. Woodall schreef:

>In , on 12/19/2004 
>   at 01:30 PM, Kris Steenhaut  said:
>
>Hi Kris
>
>     I received this message twice with the same time stamp.
>However one copy is 6438 bytes and this copy I am replying to is 7895
>bytes.
>
>  
>
You should have noticed, one was to this group, and the other one was a 
private urgent message.

>>>    If you remember that eBay purchase I made around the first of
>>>November 4 ea 160MB hard drives, that I was thinking were 160GB's.
>>>
>>>    Well, the seller seems to think I never paid him.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>To begin with, actions to undertake immediately:
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>1. Look if/when your account has been charged for the amount you _think_ 
>>you have paid.
>>    
>>
>
>     I paid this seller with a money order.  This means I wrote myself a
>check, went to the bank and cashed it, and had the bank give me a cashiers
>check free of charge, and mailed it to the seller.
>
>     I have an e-Mail from the seller acknowledging that he received the
>money order.
>
>  
>
Well, you should have told that from the start. How do you want us to 
know that otherwise?
Of course, now I'm presuming you know for sure the email was genuine.

And presuming you do know, then we know for sure the email you got from 
"compuserve" and didn't came of course nor from compuserve nor from 
Ebay, that email is phase one of a rip.off of a step in an already poing 
on swindle.

>>3. Send an email to the seller explaining him you might be (you are 
>>actually) victim of Internet fraude. Email him by means of the Ebay web 
>>interface, then at least you'll be sure you'll go to the right person.
>>    
>>
>
>     I did send the seller an e-Mail yesterday, replying to the message he
>sent me acknowledging receipt of the money order in which I pasted a copy
>of the first message claiming to be from e-Bay.  I do not expect to hear
>from him until Monday.
>
>  
>
Well, it's your job to controll whether the email address is genuine and 
the address of the real seller.

>     Now, you are making a leap of faith(?)/logic(?) I am
>not able to understand.  Maybe I am innocent, naive, trusting, whatever,
>but I fail to see how this has anything to with my Internet fraud problem,
>for reasons I may just have explained to you.
>
>     I don't see how I can go through the e-Bay message system in this
>situation because they limit one to 1,000 character length limit.  Also
>that little 50 character wide, or whatever it is window, prevents me from
>pasting in a 74 character wide message and making any sense of what I see
>there.
>
>  
>
Can't you? Well, although English isn't my native language, I dare to 
say I can do it, and if I can do it, it must be a piece of cake for you.
As I told already, as buyer you can go to the object at Ebay, click 
somewhere on his Ebay user name (probably the email address will remain 
disclosed, and then will be opened a window in which you can type a 
message like this:

"Please, as I am the victim of Internet fraude, can you confirm you have 
received the money".

I'm bad in arithmetics, nevertheless me thinks that's altogether less 
than 1000 characters.

>     After I sent this message, I discovered/found the message from the
>seller where he gave me the name and address to mail the money order to. 
>He also included his phone number.  So, I am thinking about giving him a
>call this afternoon.
>
>  
>
And you are sure this message came from the seller?

>     I am also thinking about giving the FBI a call tomorrow
>about the internet fraud thing.
>
>     Sorry if I have seemed kind of disjointed, but this thing really got
>me flustered, panicked, and unable to think for a couple of days there.
>
>     Ok, I think I'll stop here for now.  Let chew away at
>this a little bit a time.
>
>     OH, some place, you tell me to contact eBay.  That is
>bad advise.
>
No, it isn't.

>  That really launches my missle.  eBay makes it
>TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE to contact them.
>
If I can do it, why wouldn't you be able to do so?

>  I would if I could, if
>I knew how.
>
>  
>
You have to follow a few standardi pages at which you have to reply 
"NO", and in the end you will be able to write a message.

And the thing I still don't get is, you told last week to have blocked 
your account, and now that account is being ripped-off again? How can 
that be.

-- 
Groeten uit Gent,

   Kris



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