BK>  
> I wish we had had the patience (I am, after all, an Aries and HATE
> to WAIT for ANYTHING!) to start out Spot that way.  I drove Dub many
> times that way but with a snaffle to get his head set and undo the
> "training" he got as a working cowhorse ridden by not-so-skilled
> cowpokes.
 BK>  
 BK> Well you have to have the patience.. it's a pre-requesite! ;)
     That's why it took me four years to get him out of a running Martingale, 
Bob!
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