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to: ROSS SAUER
from: JACK SARGEANT
date: 1998-04-26 10:51:00
subject: Warning

 > JS>  > Christ on a crutch!
 > JS>  > My "attitude toward others?"
 > JS>  > Good bye and good riddance to bad rubbish!
 > JS>
 > JS>  >       Ross Sauer    patch@bbs.sts.net    patch@bytehead.com
 > JS>
 > JS> Promises, promises. You've said that before! You're like a bad penny
 > JS> that keeps showing up. ...Just to prove it, I predict you will go ba
 > JS> to "that other echo" and tell them you got booted "again." ...Just l
 > JS> you lied the last time over there when you left here in a huff.
 > Like the way you kept appearing and disappearing in SKEPTIC?
 > I thought you had learned your lesson, and would allow REAL
 > sceptical discourse. I see I was wrong.
 >
Your interpretation of skeptical discourse is warped! ...As we all can see.
 > JS> Nobody here is going to miss you.
 > I know you won't, especially since I don't take anyone's crapola.
Crapola? ...Because I've had to warn you several times for your insults
to others? Here's a recent note of yours to Laurie Appleton...
 >  LA> One thing is for certain and that is the more we learn the LESS
 >  LA> likely it seems that there is ANY life apart from that on the
 >  LA> earth! Genesis seems more and more probable after all!
 > Only to the bible-thumping ignoramuses.
 > Hey Laurie, you actually found an echo where you could post your
 > drivel and you haven't been kicked out?
 > I'm amazed!
...And then I sent you this...
The second sentence in your reply is not a flame in of itself, although
the implied intent is certainly there. However, the first sentence is a
direct attack on someone's religious belief system. One is permitted to
thump on their bible all they want to in this country. Please refrain
from these derogatory remarks in the future.
...And there was your note to Patrick Ford who tried to reason with you...
 RS> The belief that ancient people were a bunch of drooling a***oles
 RS> until "aliens" or whatever showed up.
...And I sent you this...
By: Moderator
To: Ross Sauer
Re: Still More Faceless
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 > -=> Quoting Patrick Ford to Ross Sauer <=-
 >  LA>> One thing is for certain and that is the more we learn the LESS 
likely
 >  LA>> it seems that there is ANY life apart from that on the earth! 
enesis
 >  LA>> seems more and more probable after all!
 >  RS>   Only to the bible-thumping ignoramuses.
 >  RS> Hey Laurie, you actually found an echo where you could post your 
drivel
 >  RS> and you haven't been kicked out?
 >  RS> I'm amazed!
 >  PF>
 >  PF> If Lauries post was lacking in logic, why don't you just refute it on
 >  PF> logical  grounds. Screaming abuse and sarcasm is not an effective way
 >  PF> to find truth.
 > You haven't had the experiences I've had with Laurie.
 >  PF> His `demise of Darwinism' stuff would be easy to refute in an
 >  PF> intelligent way.  Why didn't you do that or just ignore it?
 > I, and many others DID try. In Skeptic.
 > But Laurie is so close-minded that any and every legitimate refutation
 > of his lies, out-of-context "quotes" or outright screwups just go in
 > one ear and out the other, and then he comes back with the same tired,
 > easily refuted nonsense.
 > To put it simply, Laurie Appleton goes ONLY by what his creationist
 > gurus
 > spoon-feed to him, and everything and everybody else can go to hell.
 >       Ross Sauer    patch@bbs.sts.net    patch@bytehead.com
I have to agree with Patrick. You are not arguing against Laurie's
logic, you are making sarcastic remarks about him and to his beliefs.
...And... if I may be so bold as to ask... What does any of this have
to do with UFOs? Please get back on topic.
Jack Sargeant, Moderator  -=UFO echo=-
Ross Sauer wrote in a message to Patrick Ford:
 RS> To put it simply, Laurie Appleton goes ONLY by what his creationist
 RS> gurus spoon-feed to him, and everything and everybody else can go
 RS> to hell.
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Ross Sauer wrote in a message to Roger Nelson:
 RS> I've seen a picture of an area on Mars that looks like Kermit the
 RS> Frog. Does that mean Jim Henson was there?
No, Ross, it simply means that you need to be more tolerant of the feelings 
f
others.  If everyone were alike, this would be a very dull world, wouldn't 
?
 RS> Why'd you keep it?
Because it's here.  That's the difference between us.  Just because I may
disagree with something today doesn't necessarily mean it isn't true or that 
it
holds no value whatsoever.
 RS> It sounds like pure speculation at best, and pure drivel at worst.
 RS> Richard Hoagland and his propaganda minister, Art Bell continue to
 RS> promote the "face" mythology because they make money off it. The
 RS> guy who posted the original above sounds to me like a candidate for
 RS> a rubber room.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you'd be best served if you 
oned
down your disagreements somewhat if you want to capture the imagination of
others.
Regards,
Roger
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Ross, both Roger and I have been extremely tolerant with you. You
are apparently on a suicide mission to get booted from the UFO echo.
I warned you, yet you come back with pure sarcasm, arguing with me
for insisting you abide by the echo rules. You have ignored these
warnings. You are suspended from UFO for 30 days. Do not reply to
this in the open echo, or the price goes up to 60 days.
Jack Sargeant, Moderator  -=UFO echo=-
E-Mail: ufo1@juno.com
cc: Ivy Iverson, sysop
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