-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to MARTIN ATKINS <=-

CA> Hello Martin -

CA>> fwiw: You aparently missed messages where I mentioned that
CA>> I have two Linux installs on another machine. Probably not
CA>> _your_ 'distro' but they are both working Linux installs.

MA> Perhaps you should inform me what installations you have.
MA> It might be fun to compare notes.

CA> Slackware but I would have more 'fun' discussing OBERON.

I'm sure you would have more fun discussing OBERON but we
need to get back to you assertion that by operating as root when
using Linux that i am a danger to others. This is a very serious
accusation. I think at the very least you should make an effort
to substantiate your claim.

CA>> I've also installed and rewritten parts of OBERON to get
CA>> it to connect to the internet. Have you installed OBERON
CA>> on your machine? S'matter chicken?

MA> One of the tactics used by people who have argued them
MA> selves into a corner and can no longer defend their
MA> position is to change the subject.

CA> I'm not changing the subject. Your niche OS is Linux, one of
CA> mine is OBERON.

But you are trying to change the subject. You accused me of putting
the security of any one i communicate with on the internet in jeopardy.

MA> I don't know what OBERON is. I have never said i did. I
MA> don't care what it is and if you have been playing with the
MA> code there is a 99.999 percent chance i will never install
MA> it.

CA> Don't try, you might learn something.

All i have learned from you so far is that you feel free to make 
accusations then squirm and wriggle when you can't substantiate them.

MA> I think the subject is security and operating as root on a
MA> Linux system.

CA> You confuse FIDO with marriage. I can discuss anything I chose
CA> to. ;-)

No you can discuss in this echo what the Moderator feels is 
appropraite.

MA>> Try talking about something you know about and not
MA>> something you wished you knew about. I'm not going
MA>> anywhere. Bring it on you twit. Tell me how i can
MA>> compromise the internet by being root in such a way i
MA>> can't do it as a user or shut up and stop making a fool of
MA>> yourself.

CA> Let me guess, you're the 90 lb weakling with a keyboard?

I am 6'2 and about 147 lb but you got the keyboard part right.

Let me guess...you are 36 24 36 and judging by your sig file
spend most of your time prancing around in a leotard.

CA>> Sure. Once you are 'rooted' the hackers can install/modify
CA>> your system to be anything they want it to be.

MA> So let me get this straight. First they penetrate my fire
MA> wall then they somehow negotiate my spam filter taking
MA> control of my computer and wreak havoc on the internet. Are
MA> you on some kind of medication or been indulging in Mary
MA> dyou wanna?

CA> Why not move this to the LINUX echo where you can explain to
CA> the rest of the Linux users that you alone can operate as root
CA> 24/7 safely and have no reason to worry about doing this?

Worry? No i don't worry. What i said is that if something goes wrong
i learn by it. But what you have said is that i am a danger to others 
on the internet. So far you have indulged in wild speculation about 
what could happen but produced little factual information by the way of
how it can happen. 
 
L8r.
 
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