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to: CHARLES ANGELICH
from: MARTIN ATKINS
date: 2005-03-25 18:15:00
subject: Win98FE Harddrivicide?

-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to MARTIN ATKINS <=-


CA> Hello Martin -

CA>>> The 'attacks' are scripted and very fast. If your machine
CA>>> becomes a 'zombie' for some group you become a part of
CA>>> the problem for _everyone_ using the internet. It is not
CA>>> just your foot you 'shoot' it involves many other
CA>>> innocent feet.

MA>> What group are you talking about?

CA>> Spammers and others.

MA> You seem to be totally deaf to what i have said. Spam goes
MA> straight in the to trash.

CA> No one, not even a person as arrogant as you, can write a
CA> perfect spam filter. Get a grip!

Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. Once i have set the
rules I have had only one spam get through in the last three years. 

MA>> Most attacks come via email and if you read my message to
MA>> Tom you will see that i suggested isolating unknown mail.

MA>> I've using Linux for years and i haven't received so much
MA>> as a pop up. It is not users like me that are the problem
MA>> but the abundance of ignorant Windows users.

CA>> If you operate as root needlessly and become overconfident
CA>> you are a part of the problem. The 'abundance' of Windows
CA>> users is a reflection of the percentage of the population
CA>> that uses Windows not an indication of their ignorance.

MA> And malicious code is aimed at that large percentage of the
MA> internet population.

CA> "Security by obscurity" won't work for you anymore. Linux is
CA> now 'on the radar' and all your base are belong to us.

Being on the radar doesn't guarantee a hit. Our base 
belong to you? You can't even install a proper Linux
system let alone own our base.

MA> You are probably more vulnerable than me as you run
MA> antiquated software that cannot take advantage of the
MA> latest protection from Windows attacks.

CA> I'm not as wildly arrogant as you and take steps to prevent
CA> becoming pwnd.

Not wildly arrogant? You are all puff and bluster. 

MA> If you use the internet then it's probably clowns like you
MA> that are sending viruses and Trojans without knowing it.

CA> It's raving lunatics like _you_ spouting bad advice about
CA> always operating as root that are the problem. 

How would you know what's bad advice as far as Linux is concerned?

You are to cowardly to even install it. What makes you think that
operating as a user i still can't send or receive a virus or Trojan?

Operating as root is only a danger to the operating system of the
machine i'm using. Tell me by what logic you conclude that i am in any
way more of a danger of sending a virus as root than user.

CA> Get a grip, get a life, then get lost for a decade or two or three.

Try talking about something you know about and not something you wished 
you knew about. I'm not going anywhere. Bring it on you twit. Tell
me how i can compromise the internet by being root in such a way i can't
do it as a user or shut up and stop making a fool of yourself.

L8r.
 
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