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from: Andy Willis
date: 2005-01-23 19:39:04
subject: Re: Fraud warning

Herbert Rosenau wrote:

>Ralph Cohen schrieb:
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>>On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:28:49 -0000, uvcceet wrote:
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>>>>In fact they are processed after the initial robotic response.  I
>>>>religiously report these and often get followup messages
>>>>
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>>>In a million years, no way :-) They would be getting thousands of
>>>these a day, and do we really think anyone is reading them? Thousands
>>>a day? No. I reckon they might grab one a day, maybe, and reply, but
>>>that means you ought to be buying lottery tickets if you are 'often'
>>>getting followup messages beyond something robotic. 
>>>
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>>It would be a simple matter for Paypal/Ebay to set up a filter for each
>>new version of a spoofed message it receives and ignore the thousands
>>of copies.  That would certainly make the workload manageable.    I use
>>an email filter action that automatically forwards these spoofed emails
>>to spoof{at}paypal.com or spoof{at}ebay.com and then dumps the original in
>>the trash.  I have also received a second follow-up message from Paypal
>>in the past.  Paypal/Ebay have an important stake in making sure that
>>people feel comfortable and secure using their services.
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>Impossible mission because the whole message is faked. The computer 
>the message goes out from has nothing to do with paypal/ebay/any bank. 
>So the only who would able to filter that would be YOUR ISP.
>
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I think you misread the above.  He never said ebay/paypal could stop him 
from getting it.  He is saying that if he forwards them a note (as they 
apparently desire) they can then create a filter so that if you or I 
forward the same one to them they do not have to waste time on the same 
issue more than once.  In practice I don't know how simple that would 
be, as automation could cause them to miss something that the filter 
thought was old but was actually new.
Andy


 
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