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to: THE NATURAL PHILOSOPHER
from: AHEM A RIVET`S SHOT
date: 2017-02-21 15:31:00
subject: Re: Any progress on accel

On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:44:07 +0000
The Natural Philosopher  wrote:

> On 21/02/17 10:39, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:14:47 +0000
> > The Natural Philosopher  wrote:
> >
> >> On 21/02/17 07:55, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> >
> >>>  Here is a *very* simple point for you - in order to export a
> >>> filesystem you need root access to the machine holding that
> >>> filesystem, in order to run an X application on a remote machine
> >>> displaying on a local machine all you need is a login on both. I
> >>> could just as easily run calibre for a thousand users my way and none
> >>> of them would even be able to see anything but their own collection.
> >>> Your way would require a thousand exports and anyone would be able to
> >>> mount any export unless you restricted the exports to specific
> >>> clients.
> >>>
> >>
> >> That is apart from the 'need for root to set it up' such ignorant tosh
> >> that its not worth responding to.
> >
> >  Translation every word of it is correct and you won't admit it.
> > You are hereby exposed as a trolling idiot.
> >
> sigh. How do you set up user accounts on your machine - the thousand
> user accounts you need to have a 'private caliber' for each one. Using
> root privileges.

 Yes but *they* don't, they just need accounts on a box with calibre
installed. I can run calibre on any machine I can log into which has it
installed and I can display it on any machine I can log into which has X
installed. I don't need root anywhere to do that. I can even install
calibre (or anything else) into my home directory without root.

 I can run *any* GUI application available on *any* machine I can log
into and display it on *any* suitably equipped machine I can log into
without troubling a sysadmin.

> If you e.g. exported /home as an NFS export, that is the only export you
> need.  course your adduser script could be simply modified to add a
> discretely exported home dir as well, if you really wanted to do that

 You assume that I have sufficient control over the server to set up
exports, this is not always the case.

> Bearing in mind that all users would have userids that would prevent
> than from farting round in other peoples home directories.

 Oh yes and then there is the little detail of ensuring that
everyone has the *same* userid on *all* the machines that may be used.

 Another point for you - when you export your calibre collection
by NFS you expose it to all the manipulations possible via the filesystem
not just those provided by the application.

> I supect you are from a MS windows background, and NFS, unix permissions
> and unix sysadmin principles are foreign to you  and you feel you need a
> GUI for everything.

 You supect very wrongly - I've never owned an MS Windows license
and I have been developing software on unix systems since the early 1980s.
FWIW it irritates me that I need to use a GUI with calibre but the command
line usage is impossibly clumsy for anything but the simplest of tasks.

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