DS>  AT> But don't both of them deserve the benefit of the doubt, as
DS>  AT> presidents, when  it comes to stuff like this?
DS> 
DS> Yes -- but given the enormity of the things that Trump has done or had
DS> done in his name -- the benefit of the doubt went out the window a long
DS> time ago.

Biden has offended me in many ways, but despite everything, if Biden were to 
say "I'm gonna donate my salary to illegal immigrants," I'd believe him and I 
wouldn't doubt him just because I don't like his politics.

--- Renegade vY2Ka2