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echo: scanners
to: BUD JAMISON
from: BILL FUNK
date: 1997-01-09 18:09:00
subject: RE: .

On 6 Jan 97 01:36pm, Bud Jamison wrote to Scott Hoffman:
SH>> but these scanner companies  "DO" undisputedly sell scanners capable of
SH>> cellular reception. There is no doubt about that and all you have to do 
is
SH>> either read ICOMS catalog or call ICOM and they will tell you that
SH>> certain models are reserved for government useage (those being the full
 BJ> Icom blocks the ENTIRE 800 mhz segment in their radios.  They DON'T
 BJ> block JUST cellular.  They DO sell the unblocked models to 'authorized'
 BJ> users, but since there ARE no users 'authorized' to monitor cellular
 BJ> via a scanner, those models are NOT legal in ANY way.
 You are misunderstanding the law.
 There are both law enforcement and professionsal groups who are allowed, by
 law, to purchase unblocked scanners. And they do.
 BJ> You can argue the point as much as you want, but NO Judge would be
 BJ> stupid enough to authorize a blanket cellular monitoring warrant using
 BJ> a scanner, except maybe AFTER Martial Law is activated.
 That's a moot point, and doesn't really mean anything in context.
 The reality is, there are both law enforcement and professional groups who
 are defined by law as being able to purchase unblocked scanners. ICOM is one
 of several manufacturers who make and sell such scanners.
SH>> models with no blocking). The government is above the law my friend, you
SH>> seem to forget that.
 The Government is *not* above the law; certain segments of it are
 specifically allwed exemptions to the law.
 BJ> Ah, so you DO agree with me, that it is NOT legal to monitor cellular
 BJ> freqs with a scanner.
 For the vast majority of us, that's right.
 BJ> My point exactly.  Warrants target a SPECIFIC cellular phone, and the
 BJ> Government has the equipment to do just that.  They DON'T need scanners
 BJ> capable of monitoring cellular.
 You might have a hard time trying to convince several law enforcement
 agencies of that. I seriously doubt that you are such an insider that you
 can say with any certainty that you understand the requirements of such
 agencies.
Bill Funk:  Internet:  skypilot@starlink.com
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