From: Adam 

George Sherwood wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:52:01 +0100, Adam wrote:
>
>> George Sherwood wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:18:02 +0100, Adam wrote:
>>>
>>>> ""Every country has the right to decide for
itself with whom and in
>>>> what way it cooperates with other states," Russian
Foreign Ministry
>>>> spokesman Mikhail Kamynin
>>> So if the Russians do this against Iran they are a hero in your mind and
>>> if the US makes the same choice against Hamas, then we are mistaken.
>>> Now I understand better.
>>>
>>>
>> No you just think you do.
>>
>> A) I had no idea you were building nuclear reactors for the palestinians.
>>
>> B) I had no idea that the Palestinians were the on of the world's largest
>> oil exporters & a serious local power.
>>
>> C) I had no idea you were funding the imprisonment & occupation of the
>> Iranians.
>
> What does A, B or C have to do with anything?  As the Russian said that
> you agree with, "Every country has the right to decide for itself with
> whom and in what way it cooperates with other states".  Really what I
> have been saying in regard to the Palestinians since the election.
>

Because the US has been involved from day 1 in supplying the Israelis with
the cash & the means etc to do as they will with the Palestinians. The
Palestinians are not yet sovereign e.g. who controls their airspace,
coastal waters, borders etc. In fact where are their borders?

When they are fully sovereign then the above would apply. If the US wants
to push for this to happen then great but right now they are a people under
foreign occupation by people who covet their land, water etc. & who
wish to see them somewhere short of fully sovereign & if possible a
vassal statelet much as South Africa created it's "bantustans".

Where is their mil & to what degree can they defend their sovereignty?

>> Indeed. They are recovering their nerve following the end of the cold
>> war.
>
> Great place to have some nerve.  Guess we won't hear from you any more
> about they are just dead Africans.  Talk to the Chinese and Russians.
>
>
>> Nice of you to veto any negative UN comment wrt Israel & her shelling of
>> civilian areas in Gaza.
>
> But not going to hear anything about Palestinians blowing themselves up in
> supermarkets and bars are we?  Heck, now we have a Palestinian Government
> that praises this and promises more.
>

& we have an Israeli gov which is shelling civilians areas of an
occupied people. Where is the condemnation of that? It appears the present
Israeli gov are getting praise for simply backing away from "eretz
Israel" but the Palestinians adopting the same position "Eretz
Palestine" are "condemned". Where was the condemnation when
the Likud etc were practicing the establishment of eretz Israel by force
via settlements & the concomitant expulsions of palestinians from their
land?

Oh now the US seems to be going "OK you can keep wot you nicked so
long as it's big enough" & the Israelis are going "Quick
let's completely surround & thus annex jerusalem & it's
suburbs" & the US is saying nothing.

Personally I dislike all political violence & would like it to be
condemned whether it's D9 bulldozers, F16'es, 155 shells etc or bombs in
cafes.

A bit of "balance" would be nice e.g. it's OK for Israel to say
"leave this area of habitation coz in 12 hours we're going to start
shelling & then it's your own fault if you're a civie & you're
hurt" thus it should be OK for Hamas to say "leave this area of
habitation coz in 12 hours we're going to start bombing & then it's
your own fault if you're a civie & you're hurt".

An explosive device is an explosive device.

Dead civies are dead civies.

Fine so if you dislike suicide bombers etc so much then ship the the
Palestinians MLRS, 155 artillery, MANPAD & MANPAT systems etc. etc.

I'm sure the Palestinians would prefer some batteries of MLRS protected by
Patriot, stinger, ground launched hellfire etc to suicide bombers.

Would you have a problem with that? Artillery duels can replace the current
artillery on one side, human bombs on the other & each can be asked to
clearly announce which areas of habitation they will be targeting say 12
hours in advance.

Adam

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