Hello Darin.
10 Jan 98 21:48, Darin McBride wrote to Roger Scudder:
RS>>  I guess Jim comes under your "Bad Programmers" blanket statement
RS>>  too.  I can tell you one thing for sure.  I'm a lot more comfortable
RS>>  being in the company of bad programmers like Jim Nutt, than in the
DM> I don't feel comfortable being in the company of bad programmers no 
matter 
DM> what their products.
 I find the whole finger pointing "Bad Programmer" business to be very
 counter productive.   No matter how highly Gaines thinks of himself,
 I'm sure he doesn't have all areas of the art mastered to the point
 where all of his code is %100 bug free.
 I intend to check out the code in question and also to pay more
 attention to this issue in the future.  OTOH, I will never be so
 close minded as to consider a programmer who uses memset to clear
 a string a "Bad Programmer" based on that one thing.
RS>>  company of anal retentive ones like you.
DM> Roger, flame or not, many consider it flamebait.  I would suggest calming 
DM> down.  I don't recall Gaines calling you names (good or bad), please 
don't 
DM> start it.
 Calm down?  If I calm down any more I'll be dead.   IMO, he started
 it with the "Good Programmer, Bad Programmer" crap.
DM> Gaines still has a valid point: clearing out a string to all zero *IS* 
DM> overkill, and serves no real purpose, except to hide bugs.  Sure, the 
DM> product may work - the bugs are hidden! - but often those bugs will creep 
DM> up one day on some unsuspecting customer/client/user, long after support 
DM> for the product has been withdrawn.  This merely damages your reputation, 
DM> something business can't get its head around until it's too late.
 And I intend to heed the warning...  OTOH, I learned long ago that
 blanket generalizations usually tend to have holes in them.
Roger
... Careful. We don't want to learn from this.
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