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from: KOOS NOLST TRENITE
date: 1997-06-10 13:37:00
subject: Re: Insanity of Channeling - Ceanne DeRo13:37:0006/10/97

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From: "Koos Nolst Trenite" 
Originally to: mail2news@news.news.demon.net
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Original Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:08:17 +0100
Well researched and well formulated.
Thank you, Patrick.
Patrick Alessandra wrote:
> 
> On Channelling
> 
> "According to the research I have done, a "channelled" writing can
> actually be from many different types of sources -- some good but some
> intent on deception. The criteria to determine this seems to be whether
> or not the so-called channeller is conscious or unconscious. If the
> person is conscious (awake with eyes open) then it generally would be
> good. If the channeller is unconscious (eyes-closed) with some entity
> using the body then definitely not good (despite apparent good
> information...) [Edgar Cayce was in deep meditation...very different
> from unconscious possession, and his work is generally ok]. I believe
> that truth itself is its own authority (in the Gospels and in the
> Bhagavad Gita there is enough for many lives) and any spiritual truth
> can be demonstrated as such through practical living by each of us."
> 
> " In each of us there is a higher spiritual self (the Christ
> consciousness, Divine Angel, etc.) and, accordingly, our spiritual
> evolution is to come closer and eventually be one with that higher self
> in full consciousness. The unconscious rendering of our bodies for the
> use of other entities separates us from this spiritual evolution -- this
> is the reason that so-called possession is a bad thing. "
> 
> "Any true spiritual being, living on spiritual planes, would communicate
> with us through our spiritual self in full consciousness. The use of
> someone's unconscious body by another entity is always being done on
> some lower level and thus (although those involved may believe that they
> are doing the right thing) there is no access by the person to spiritual
> information. Also, unconscious body possession sets up a very unhealthy
> chemical vibration in the brain cells which usually leads to some form
> of debility. "
> 
> "Higher psychism is the faculties of the higher self (Soul and the
> Monad), and lower psychism is the faculties of the personality
> (physical, emotional and mental senses). These lower faculties can be
> used for good or bad. When one is pure, of good character and pursuing a
> path of meditation and service then the higher faculties become
> available and control the lower one's for use in good. Dangers arise
> when the lower (which most animals have to some degree) are focussed on
> without the requisite purity and good values -- and with the right
> purity and values all faculties unfold naturally if and as needed for
> the good work. Being psychic or not in the lower sense says nothing
> about a person's spirituality and advanced souls may or may not use
> these faculties during an incarnation."
> 
> "I believe that this issue has arisen today because of the increased
> etheric resonance of humanity and the recapitulatory prevalence of
> etheric vision. This in and of itself can be used for good or bad but
> certainly we can hope that good will come and work for this."
> 
> Shanti,
> Patrick Alessandra, Psy.D.
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