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to: George Sherwood
from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-05-13 09:33:24
subject: Re: If you`ve got nothing to hide then...

From: "Gary Britt" 


From JunkYardLawDogs:

"the Dog" said...

  I find all the chicken little talk about how the sky is falling on our
rights and liberties and the terrorists have won if the government has an
anonymous database of phone numbers called. People, real everyday people,
might pay more attention to your dire warnings if they weren't so
irrelevant to what is actually happening. Those of you screaming about the
constitution is thrown away, the sky is falling, cats and dogs are living
together, etc. are all acting like the government is randomly invading
homes of ordinary citizens on a regular basis and carting them off to
re-education camps. That just isn't happening. Its hard to get worked up
into a mouth foaming rabid state when the alleged problem is to 99.99% of
the citizens an intrusion on their liberty so minor, so inconsequential,
that they are completely unaware of the intrusion and it has absolutely NO,
NONE, NADA effect on their daily lives.

  But some will say well yeah, but just wait if they get away with this then
random home invasions and re-education camps are just around the corner. To
this I say bollocks, the American people know when to get concerned and
elect different politicians and change the laws and the courts. If *real*
as opposed to *theoretical* invasions of liberty began to start happening,
invasions of liberty that affected people's daily lives, the politicians
involved would be done away with in short order.

  So for me and I suspect the vast majority of the American people I say
GMAFB. Its rational to be more afraid of what the terrorists want to do to
us than it is to be afraid of our own government's efforts to try and find
the terrorists. If that equation should change, the people will change the
government. Until then I feel much more endangered by the ACLU and those
who want to protect me from the governments efforts to catch criminals and
terrorists than I do by the government's efforts to catch criminals and
terrorists.

  Remember its not conservatives that have re-education camps. That's the
province of the left.

  Says the "Dog"
"George Sherwood"  wrote in message
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>
> "Mike N."  wrote in message
> news:j9qa6216f1uavei51l1lbr4shvbm9cp5a7{at}4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 12 May 2006 20:28:42 -0400, "George Sherwood"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>Exactly what is the lie?  These were not wiretaps.  No one was listening
>>>to
>>>anyone. It is constructing diagrams of phone calls.  Data mining of
>>>numbers.
>>
>>   What if (as the mega-parinoias claim), the government has succeeded in
>> implanting RFID chips in money?   Every anti-theft security bar at store
>> entrances are really just ways to track money movement.   Since they have
>> succeeded in implanting one in your drivers license, they also know who
>> you
>> are.     They are just constructing datagrams of travel.   Data mining of
>> numbers.  No one personally followed your travels.
>>
>>   What if, as is more likely, they have tracked your cell phone by
>> location?  With the poor location resolution, it appears that you stopped
>> in that mosque you were caught next to in a traffic jam.  Data mining of
>> numbers.
>
> Here are you identifying the numbers with a person.  From my understanding
> this isn't what was reported being done.  It is looking at patterns on a
> macro level and not at the individual level.  Doesn't bother me and from
> the polls yesterday doesn't seem to bother over 60% of Americans.
>
> George
>

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