AD> I've come up with a simple solution, though -- I'm in 
 AD> the process of totally gutting the menus of all SysOp 
 AD> abilities. If it doesn't exist, it can't be found -- 
 AD> and -really-, I don't need an OS shell available.
one trick is to use usrlocal or usremote (first param in menus.ctl - read 
dox) for all those options, like the user editor.
to access any of that stuff on my system, you have to be a sysop PLUS have a 
certain key. this means that even if someone is somehow put at sysop, or if i 
upgrade their acess so they can download a file that's not online, and forget 
about them, then they don't have complete sysop access. I did the thing you 
have setup for a while, then i was at a friends house trying to give them 
acess and couldn't since i couldn't access the user editor, so that put an 
end to that =)
 AD> Almost everything. Does -anyone- know where I can find 
 AD> a Maximus 3.0 user editor, preferably freeware?
well, there's max(p).exe -u ;) there's external editors around.. UED is/used 
to be a big one. there's also another one i tried, but it was in beta and 
kind of a pain to use..
ttyl, greg
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