To be honest, my comfort level on something as serious as changing policy
itself should require a manditory participation on the *C level, and a 2/3
(two thirds) affirmative vote required to enact the change.

You would probably see this as too high, but a mere simple majority of 10%
of the eligible voters would undoubtably create problems later on any
adopted policy in that "it wasn't voted by the "majority" of
all C's, so it isn't truly ratified" would be the battle cry of those
who later decided that they disliked it, or weren't in their positions and
"eligible" when the vote took place.

These proposed now are simple changes... the later ones won't be... if the
process is to be set down, it needs to reflect a "clear" majority
of "ALL" the eligible voters, otherwise will always be surrounded
by controversy.

Phil

 -=>> On 09-13-02  08:23, Philip Lozier <=-
 -=>> spoke to Dale Shipp about Current P5 draft <=-

 PL>> Uh... I made a note that I noticed that there was no
 PL>> change, but in the original message I also noted that this
 PL>> concern was in addition to the very small percentage
 PL>> required on the vote to change policy... based on that,
 PL>> unless the number rises to what can be clearly determined
 PL>> as a "majority", I would still urge people to vote nay.

 >    I cannot recall an election in which anything close to
 > 50% of the
 >    eligible voters actually voted.   That is why I think
 > a 50% quorum
 >    or anything close to that is too high.

 PL>> I can't see 1 out of 10 determining the future of FidoNet.
 PL>> It only opens the doors for the vocal minority. He who has
 PL>> the biggest yap flap wins? Uh-uh.

 >    It is not just 1 out of 10.  It is 10% of the RCs, and
 > then again 10%
 >    of all *Cs in two separate stages.

 >    In any event, if the RCs are not comfortable with the
 > 10% quorum
 >    figures, they can change them to something on which
 > they can reach a
 >    majority acceptance.

 >    Would you support 15%?  20%? 25%?  Where is your level
 > of comfort?

 >                         dale (at) min (dot) net
 >                               (1:261/1466)


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