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to: Robert Comer
from: John Oellrich
date: 2003-01-15 21:25:12
subject: Re: Bumper Mentality

From: "John Oellrich" 

Bob,

Have you ever driven an SUV of any type for any length of time? While they
are not as nimble as a Civic, they are pretty good these days. I have
driven "cars" that are worse than my Grand Cherokee or Wrangler.

--
john

oellrich{at}earthlink.net


"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:3e21e6fc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > Is your complaint about vehicles or idiots driving? Seems to me it's
> idiots
> > and simply toughening up the requirement for getting a license would
solve
> > that problem.
>
> That's a good question, and I 'spose the answer would be more on the
idiots
> side. There seems to be a lot more total idiots out on the road today.  I
> don't know if its the 60's arrogant attitude that only *Yourself* counts,
or
> it's just plain stupidity, but it doesn't really matter, the effect is the
> same.
>
> Note that I can't totally exclude the vehicles side though -- I'm a very
> believer in the idea that things should be engineered as safely as
possible
> given the target audience. The gas mileage is also a VERY big pet peeve of
> mine -- I think we ***HAVE*** to lessen our dependence on foreign oil and
> one of the ways of doing that is burning less gas.
>
> > What is nice is that I get to decide ...
>
> I think one has to look at statistics to see where the most accidents are
> and then make rules based on that -- it may not be fair to some, but like
> life, there's no guarantee of it being fair.
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
>
>
> "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3e21e4d3{at}w3.nls.net...
> > "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> > news:3e21d1c8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >
> > > I'm not bitching about you, or anyone else buying SUV's they are
legal,
> I
> > > just happen to think it's not such a good idea for most people that
buy
> > > them.  I do bitch about the safety / gas mileage rules and that's
> > definitely
> > > fair to bitch about.
> >
> > Is your complaint about vehicles or idiots driving? Seems to me it's
> idiots
> > and simply toughening up the requirement for getting a license would
solve
> > that problem.
> >
> > > That just means that something big is a good idea for you...
> >
> > What is nice is that I get to decide what is a good idea for me
regardless
> > of whether or not it's a good idea from your pov. It makes sense to me
> that
> > a bad driver would want a big more protective vehicle. The real question
> is
> > that since that does affect everyone else on the road how do you deal
with
> > it fairly? Do you make the license requirements for different weight
class
> > vehicles different and ignore the top end speed of each class? Do you
look
> > at controllability and reduce the requirement for more controllable
> > vehicles? Do you just make a level playing field where all vehicles have
> the
> > same licensing requirements?
> >
> > Geo.
> >
> >
>
>

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