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Subject: Insanity of Channeling - Ceanne DeRohan's God - Mysticism - New Age
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7 June 1997
RI-888i 'Insanity of Channeling - Ceanne DeRohan's God - Mysticism - New Age'
from Ambassador for Mankind
Message # RI-888i for Internet
This might help you considerably
to understand Mystics and 'New Age', and Astrology-type people.
Definition of 'Channeling':
A one-sided form of communication
due to the inability of either side
to engage in normal, verbal and/or telepathic
communication between individuals.
Forms of 'channeling' are:
1. Receiving the thoughts of a spirit
and writing these down or speaking these thoughts -
without any responsibility
for that spirit and for his thoughts,
other than relaying these thoughts
in spoken or written form.
2. Allowing oneself
to be driven unconscious
and out of control of one's own body, and
letting another spirit use it temporarily
in order to communicate via that body.
I think you can understand
that both these activities
point at severe inability
in the persons (the beings) involved.
In point one, above,
he can't even generate enough mental force anymore
to make a body talk.
In point two, above, he obviously can,
but he can not anymore take responsibility
for actually being alive and for leading a life
- he has to make another unconscious
in order to be able to communicate at all.
The spirit channeled
- although he won't admit it
and pretends to be MORE able than you
by knowing more things -
is below the ability to have and maintain a body.
"PHILOSOPHY" OF CEANNE DEROHAN
The "philosophy" that is being 'channeled' by Ceanne DeRohan is:
'Run away from suppression and from evil,
run away to a place where you feel good'.
'Be small enough
not to feel opposition'.
With such a "philosophy" ('philosophy' means 'love of truth',
in the Greek language),
you soon have no places anymore to run to,
(see RI-801i '"You can never leave" - the Spiritual Universe' 14 Mar 97
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-801i.htm)
and of course
you also do not remedy or stop a criminal or a war
with such a "philosophy",
but you let them wreak havoc on others.
I quote below
from the book 'Right Use of Will',
subtitle 'Healing and Evolving the Emotional Body'
of 1984, 1986, published by herself, apparently.
It "is the first in a series of books
channeled by Ceanne DeRohan",
followed by five other volumes.
"These books need to be read in order".
Now, this IS channeling.
Ceanne DeRohan wrote down the thoughts of some spirit
who thinks he is God of Earth,
who believes he created all beings - including you - on Earth, and
who believes he has steered or allowed
all life - including your life - on Earth, and
who believes he is continuously doing so.
I quote from the book, more or less randomly,
the thoughts of this spirit
channeled and written down by Ceanne DeRohan
as if her book is the ultimate bible itself:
[You don't have to read these quotes from her book
in order to understand this Bulletin.
But you will encounter or have encountered
many similar "well-meaning ideas"
and so it makes interesting reading,
to see how this works. (Note by Koos)]
"The Spirits [you, that is] I have created are not all alike."
"Even the ones going to what is referred to by others [by
those who want to go to Heaven] as Hell, are not going to
necessarily feel bad there."
"The choices you make are right for you."
"You will ONLY experience what you need to experience, in
order to learn what you need to learn."
"Then I can put you in your right place which will not have
anything you do not like."
"I am not sending any Spirits [you, that is] to Hell, unless
their denials are so extensive that they refuse to accept
anything from Me at all."
"Know that I am a Loving God and that I Love all My Spirits
[you, that is]."
"Nothing happens in My Creation unless it needs to happen, no
matter how it looks to you."
[That's a good one, isn't it. (Note by Koos)]
"If your denials take you to Hell, you need to go [there] to
see if denial is the way for you."
"Earth has made a choice to end its imbalance ... only those
Spirits that are in harmony with this choice will remain on
Earth."
"I have allowed this experience to continue on Earth for as
long as it needed to ... The prophecies all point to the time
when this will happen, and the time is now ... even the ones
that refuse to hear Me must at least accept My power to put
them in their right place where they can continue to refuse
to hear Me without interfering with the ones that are now
ready to hear Me."
"When the Earth-changes intensify, animals that need clearance
may become suddenly fierce and unapproachable. Others may
choose to die. Cattle [the spirits animating cattle] for example
have asked Me to lift most of them off of Earth."
And so on, and so on, and so on.
One hundred and thirty six pages of it
(including the introduction).
He, channeled by Ceanne DeRohan, does
never mention any actual people,
- neither from history,
nor from the present of 1984 -
nor any real groups, except groups as he imagines them,
nor any real countries, except countries as he imagines them,
nor any actual events,
except those that he wants us to believe
did happen in the un-recorded history of Earth.
This I can say
after reading five chapters at random in the book
and glancing at the other chapters
for possible changes in style or subject.
CHANNELING A PSYCHOTIC SPIRIT
So what did Ceanne DeRohan do,
according to her own statement?
She listened to the ideas that she perceived from a spirit,
a spirit who calls himself
'God' and who believes he is
'the Creator of all of you and of all life on Earth'.
And Ceanne DeRohan believes this too,
and she writes this explicitly in her introduction to her book.
Apparently
for him nothing else exists outside Earth,
in the form of the sun, the moon, other planets,
other stars, galaxies, etcetera,
except
spiritual "space"
"from where He sent everyone down to Earth
[excuse the un-intended pun], and
to where He can send anyone or us all, including the animals,
away from Earth."
"He sent us here to Earth to gather experience and to learn."
I am very, very sorry
- actually I am very glad
to have the opportunity to expose this -
to point out
that Ceanne DeRohan is or was channeling
a very, very heavily psychotic being,
who
at some definite, physical universe time and
at some definite, physical universe location,
has decided
that he is God, and [at least in the present, first book]
that Earth is the only creation there is, and
that that Earth, with all on it, is His Creation.
I don't know whether, in the later books in the series,
he claims to also have created
the sun and other planets and other solar systems.
The universe does not really exist for him:
Earth as it IS, does not really exist for him,
countries as they are and the people in them
don't really exist for him,
individual beings don't really exist for him.
The ACTUAL past of this planet and of other planets
does not really exist for him,
nor the ACTUAL present,
nor the ACTUAL future.
But it is all HIS CREATION.
How true!
Only it is not what is there.
It is INDEED His Creation
what he describes and
what Ceanne DeRohan channeled and wrote down for him.
But it is NOT what IS there, on Earth.
YOU don't appear in His Creation,
but only what he considers to be
a large collection of spiritual beings with or without bodies
- whereby he says that females are different spirits than males, and
whereby he promotes the use of psychedelic drugs.
YOUR achievements and creations,
and the creations of other ACTUAL, alive people
don't appear in His Creation.
It is indeed HIS CREATION
- a CREATION WHICH EXISTS IN HIS MIND ONLY,
projected onto a place he imagines to be and
that has some similarities with Earth.
He is the God of his own mental universe,
which is true enough
- if you want to create your own imaginary
universe with you being God in it.
YOU JUST CAN CREATE ANYTHING YOU PLEASE
IN YOUR OWN IMAGINARY UNIVERSE
- also on a compulsive basis and
also including a denial of the actual physical universe and
also including a denial of the actual thought universes of others.
(see also the 'Understanding Suppression Series'
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/usp.htm
in particular
USP-058 'Doing as if reality does not exist' of 5 May 94
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/usp-058.htm)
Now it is interesting
that this person, channeled by Ceanne DeRohan,
does nothing else than tell you
that the whole problem anyone should resolve is 'denial',
and
that all is restored to perfection by ending any 'denial'.
And he calls that 'Healing and Evolving the Emotional Body'.
He is still talking only about himself,
and only about his own problem.
(He is denying
the physical universe, he is denying
the thought-universes of others, and he is denying
the past and the present and the future of these, and he is denying
his own past and most of his own present thought-universe.
And
he causes Ceanne DeRohan and some of her readers
to do the same.)
CEANNE DEROHAN's VICIOUS IRRESPONSIBILITY
Ceanne DeRohan was/is channeling this person,
this entirely psychotic person
who probably fell into a cauldron [big kettle] of LSD-brew
[Definition of 'LSD':
An extremely poisonous drug that may force one
to compulsively create an own imaginary universe
of thoughts and mental pictures and imaginary perceptions.],
and
from that moment on
he was so overwhelmed
by his own, compulsively enforced creations of himself,
that he decided that that was all that exists in life.
And he had some knowledge of and interest in spiritual phenomena
(that's probably how he justified
killing himself with LSD or similar drugs)
and he projects these ideas to Ceanne DeRohan,
who wrote these down.
Now what is the responsibility of Ceanne DeRohan
for this being, and
for this being's dire [bad, dangerous] condition and
for his sanity?
NONE!
By recording his insanity and by passing it on
- by passing it on not only as if they are SANE statements,
but also as if it is vital data -
she only drives him further and much more solidly
insane for all eternity.
You might not see that at first glance,
but by enforcing his insanity on others,
she really glues him into the insanity he created for himself.
[Until Koos comes along and gets wind of it
and stops their insanity. (Note by Koos)]
The data and ideas Ceanne receives and relays
are a boiling cauldron
of confusion and of contradiction and of other insanity,
but she swallows it all without comment,
and she even publishes it
as "THE Truth about Earth and about Healing Life on it",
and
as "Coming directly from God".
Which of course shows her to be
a psychotic as well, and shows her to be
driven by the intention
to spread insanity and confusion
to the very people who try desperately to search for truth.
That's REALLY the way, and it is her way,
to cave people in forever, for eternity.
And that's Ceanne DeRohan, and
that's for understanding a lot of
mystics and 'New Age' people,
like
Flemming Funch and his Princess of Light, and
Allen Hacker and his Acceptance, and
Allen Wright with his parallel physical universes, and
many Astrologer-types who talk of
events being determined
by time and by the physical universe
rather than
by identifiable individuals like you and me.
(see RI-798i 'A working definition of Astrology ...' of 26 Feb 1997
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/ri-798i.htm)
"PEOPLE ARE NOT READY FOR IT"
Almost ALL of them talk about
'People being ready for something', or
'People not being ready yet'.
This seems to be a common denominator for all of them.
And, guess what that common denominator really is:
IRRESPONSIBILITY
- a nice way to cover up
irresponsibility for others' well-being and
refusal to actually face and handle evil.
It would be interesting to find out
who this person is
whom Ceanne DeRohan is channeling.
Who died, before 1984, soaked with LSD?
(It can't be Homer Wilson Smith,
as he is still alive.
Homer also believes or feels
that the world with all the people in it
is a dream created by him -
if I correctly remember him writing that.)
(It can't be Timothy Leary, the famous LSD drug promoter and user,
because he died in 1996
- by the way, before he failed to publicly commit suicide
as he had announced.)
Ceanne DeRohan could ask the being
whom she channels and who believes that he is God:
'Whom have you created?'
And then
'By what name is this person
called by his friends and family?'
And keep these questions up,
till he stops answering as God,
and then maybe he realizes
that he actually DID create his OWN last lifetime.
And then she can ask him
what actual identity he had - by what name did others address him -
in the physical universe, in that lifetime.
But Ceanne won't do that
because she believes that this being IS God.
Now this Bulletin defines also
the 'insanity of channeling':
NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SPIRIT
WHOSE THOUGHTS ARE BEING RECORDED.
NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS SANITY.
NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CORRECTNESS
OF THE IDEAS AND DATA
PROJECTED TO THE RECIPIENT OR 'CHANNELER'.
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1997 by Koos Nolst Trenite
Personal Web-page:
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Personal Web-Library:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/
Library Search Engine:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/search.html
References:
- About Telepathy, Telepathic Communication, You as a Spirit
RI-771i 'Use of Telepathy' of 4 Jan 1997
RI-881i 'Basics of Telepathy - Vital Data about You' of 1 June 1997
RI-857i 'Telepathy - Telepathic Auditor Training Course' of 29 May 1997
RI-857i-AS 'Telepathy Course - the Processes - Summary' of 2 June 1997
RI-807Si '"Operating Thetan" defined' of 24 Mar 1997
- About Definitions for Life
RI-602i 'Definition of Power' of 20 June 1996
RI-629i 'Definition of "Care"' of 12 July 1996
RI-631i 'Definition of "Woman"' of 12 July 1996
RI-714i 'State of Sanity, Definition of' of 24 Oct 1996
- About the insanity of Channeling - Mysticism - New Age, etc.
RI-798i 'A working definition of Astrology; & Einstein exposed' 26 Feb 97
RI-ACT-138R 'Letting others destroy themselves - Karma - Homer' 22 Apr 96
RI-536i 'A talk with Koos on L. Ron Hubbard's secrets' 12 Apr 96
RI-540i 'Talking to Amateur Clearing Practitioners and Auditors' 29 Apr 96
RI-870i 'The Arrogance of some "Free Zone" Scientologists' of 21 May 1997
RI-455i 'Sec Check on typical Free Zoner Allen Wright' 22 Jan 96
- About Art and Religion
RI-019Ri 'Artists and Ethics' of 10 Sept 1992
RI-704Ri 'Real Art is not hard to understand' of 30 Sept 1996
RI-738Si 'Christianity - Love, and Guilt solved' shortened 22 Dec 96
- The 'Understanding Suppression Series':
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/usp.htm (or, all files, compressed:
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/usp-1-62.zip)
USP-058 'Doing as if reality does not exist' of 5 May 1994
USP-055 '"Looking at reality of others is deadly"' of 14 Apr 1994
USP-035 'Destroying all reality of the past' of 10 Feb 1994
USP-025 'Solving life by denying truth' of 23 Jan 1994
USP-018 '"Avoiding" Suppressive Persons completely' of 21 Jan 1994
USP-038 '"Rightness" and "beauty" of not looking - Nirwana' of 22 Feb 1994
USP-037 'WANTING to be suppressed' of 21 Feb 1994
USP-003 'Insanity and Psychosis fully understood' of 13 Dec 1996
USP-033 'Hiding loss of own viewpoint' of 6 Feb 1994
USP-057 'Not admitting failures in handling Suppressive Persons' 15 Apr 94
USP-054 'Decision to remain insane forever' of 13 Apr 1994
- About the RI-Bulletins
RI-380Ri 'Obtaining Truth from the RI-Bulletins' of 1 Nov 1995
RI-50RQi 'RI-xxxi series Archive - Content and Use' 28 Dec 94
Revised and Replaced on 6 March 1996
These and other RI-Bulletins can be obtained
at the Library of Koos' writings on
http://Art-Org.com/ri-bulletins/
or (also accessible with WWW-browser) at
ftp://thetics.europa.com/outgoing/adams/RI
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