From: "John Oellrich" 

Bob,

I think you would be very surprised at how well Jeep Wranglers (shorter
than your Subaru, but wider) and Grand Cherokees (larger than your Subaru
in all dimensions) handle.

--
john

oellrich{at}earthlink.net


"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:3e2821de{at}w3.nls.net...
> > But here, you assume facts not in evidence. You really have no idea of
my
> > driving skills.
>
> If you're driving something's as big as an SUV in normal street clothes,
> that's all I have to know.  You just can't turn as fast and as sharp as I
> can, no way, no how.
>
> > I didn't say I thought you wanted to go. I said you didn't know what you
> > were missing. Perhaps you do. But if you are going off road, you need
the
> > properly built vehicle to do it.
>
> I do know what "I'm missing" and that's fine by me.  It's
just not my bag.
>
> > And what 90% of SUV owners do isn't the issue.
>
> That actually is the issue, not that you want/need a SUV for the way you
> drive -- it's all those other crazies that are sucking up gas and killing
> themselves and others around them because they don't need something that
big
> and don't know how to drive them properly either.  I have *NO* problem
with
> anyone that actually uses an SUV for something they are meant to be used
and
> that take their limitations and strengths seriously.
>
> > I still don't understand the big deal about so many being so concerned
> about
> > what other people own here. It seems to me if you don't want an SUV,
then
> > fine, don't buy one. But you have no business telling me what to drive,
> and
> > it's my business and my business alone to decide the nature of the
> vehicle.
>
> How many times do I have to state my reasons?
>
> > My wife's got a classic sports car. She doesn't use it for racing, nor
> does
> > she use it for driving on winding roads. Truth be told, she rarely
drives
> it
> > unless the weather is perfect. Should she be condemned on some silly
> grounds
> > for that as well?
>
> Depends on what the sports car is, but it's probably more fuel efficient
> than a SUV and would do less damage to someone else's car than a SUV...
>
> Heck, I own a '57 Olds that I drive less than 100 mi's a year, it's as big
> as a SUV, it's heavier than most, it is less road nimble than any current
> SUV, and it would absolutely kill anyone in any more recent car should I
hit
> them at high speed. (it'd probably kill me too), yet I don't think it's
> wrong to own such a vehicle as long as I drive it under very controlled
> conditions, just like you Wife.
>
> > Dear me, such judgementalists!
>
> This is Canopus after all...
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "Ronnie T. Mungo, Boy Genius"  wrote
in message
> news:3e281c46$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >
> > "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> > news:3e26e050$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > > Hmmm... what's wrong with THAT picture?
> > >
> > > Because you didn't read what I said -- I never said I hadn't driven
any
> > > SUV's.
> > >
> >
> > True, I misread it.
> >
> >
> > > > I could take you some places here, or back home, where
your Subararu
> > > > wouldn't do much good, but John and I would have no
trouble at all.
> > >
> > > And I could out drive you on roads (wet or dry), so what?  That's
where
> > I'm
> > > at all the time.
> > >
> >
> > But here, you assume facts not in evidence. You really have no idea of
my
> > driving skills.
> >
> >
> > > > Too bad you close you mind off. Such a sad way to
approach things,
> > > > especially as much fun as these things.
> > >
> > > > John- if you're reading- you should tell him about what he's
missing.
> I
> > > get
> > > > the feel you've enjoyed some of this yourself. I'm only now
> > rediscovering
> > > 4
> > > > wheeling like I used to back in Oz.
> > >
> > >   I don't see why you think everyone wants to go
off roading and
> should
> > > need an SUV to do it.  I bet more than 90% of SUV *Owners* never go
> > offroad
> > > either.
> >
> >
> > I didn't say I thought you wanted to go. I said you didn't know what you
> > were missing. Perhaps you do. But if you are going off road, you need
the
> > properly built vehicle to do it.
> >
> > And what 90% of SUV owners do isn't the issue.
> >
> > I still don't understand the big deal about so many being so concerned
> about
> > what other people own here. It seems to me if you don't want an SUV,
then
> > fine, don't buy one. But you have no business telling me what to drive,
> and
> > it's my business and my business alone to decide the nature of the
> vehicle.
> >
> > My wife's got a classic sports car. She doesn't use it for racing, nor
> does
> > she use it for driving on winding roads. Truth be told, she rarely
drives
> it
> > unless the weather is perfect. Should she be condemned on some silly
> grounds
> > for that as well?
> >
> > Dear me, such judgementalists!
> >
> > RTM, SUV owner and damned glad
> >
> >
>
>

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4