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to: JEAN HALVERSON
from: JOHN SAMPSON
date: 1998-03-07 19:11:00
subject: California and Hispan

 -=> Quoting Robert Craft to Mike Angwin <=-
JH> snip-- 
 
 MA> In both cases, those seeking hope and liberty, followed the
 MA> nothern star in hopes of realizing their dreams. In both
 MA> cases, those who wrap themselves in unjust and inhumane
 MA> law, armed and deadly, stand in their way. 
 RC> Again, more hyperbole. The liberality and openness of US
 RC> immigration policies are exceeded by very few countries. 
 
JH> But just because our laws are more lenient than others does that mean
JH> our laws in this respect are correct? I'm not saying that people shoul
JH> disregard our laws, but rather that our laws (as well as the Aryan ide
JH> behind them) are morally wrong.
JH> People often try to justify injustice by comparing themselves to other
JH> are more unjust. But there is a higher standard that we have to compar
JH> our actions to. The real question is not whether our laws are more len
JH> than x country's laws, but instead how do our laws compare to the high
JH> standard?
 
JH> Yes, thanks to the welfare state that exists in our country we can't j
JH> ditch our immigration laws. But what if we dismantled the welfare stat
JH> first? 
OK Jeane, let me pose the following scenarios for you and ask what YOU 
would suggest:
A. A citizen of another country, doesn't matter which, emigrates to this 
country and promptly commits and gets convicted of the crime of sale of 
narcotics, to wit: Cocaine.
Should we allow him to remain here or remove him and send him packing?
B. Same immigrant, different scenario. He comes here as a student, or a 
tourist, marries an American woman, not because he loves her and wishes to 
make a life with her, but simply as a means to an end, to wit: a green 
card. Once he gets his precious card, he dumps her. Leaves her flat. Oh, 
and by the way, because his culture views women as property, he impregnates 
her before he leaves her. 
Should he stay or go? Whatever you say, give me your reasons.
C. Same alien. This one brings his wife, five kids, and extended family 
with him. They rent a two bedroom apartment, lying on the application 
claiming it's only the wife and husband. There are now 12 people living in 
a two bedroom apartment.
The landlord finds out and begins eviction proceedings. An immigrant's 
rights advocacy group files suit to block the eviction claiming 
discrimination. 
How would you rule in this case and why?
D. An ILLEGAL alien rents a two bedroom apartment and then 14 other illegal 
aliens move in. Same landlord, same eviction, same activist organization, 
same lawsuit. 
Your decision?
E. A naturalized United States citizen petitions to have his extended 
family join him in the United States. This includes his mother, father, his 
wife's mother and father, and both his and his wife's brothers, sisters, 
their spouses and their children. He signs an affidavit of support 
promising to support all of these people and promising that they will not 
become public charges.
Well, as predicted, the entire family shows up and of course, they apply 
for and receive public assistance. Should the petitioning son be held 
responsible for his family as he promised in writing?
If so, why? If not, why? And should the family be sent home since they 
became public charges in violation of our law?
John , jnsampson@ibm.net 
 "To find reasonable doubt, one must first be capable of reason."
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