Jane Kelley On (08 Jan 97) was overheard to say to Bob Moylan
 JK> The fact that you wrote this indicates to me that you have no
 JK> formal education in addiction whatsoever and that you are
 JK> completely unqualified to make any statements at all about the
 JK> subject.
 Your perception, in this at least, is correct.  I do not have,
 nor have I ever claimed to have, any training in addictions.
 JK> I do have by law in this state the qualification to say what I did.
 My qualifications to make any statements about addictions is not the
 issue.  The issue is your qualifications to come into this conference
 and pontificate about a causal effect between alcoholism and ADD/ADHD
 without offering a single shred of evidence to back up your claims;
 to tell the participants here that medications that have been proven
 by controlled study after controlled study to be effective in the
 treatment of ADD/ADHD are dangerous and all the other poppycock you
 spout; and to push herbs, diet and other witches brews as viable
 alternatives to a physician controlled and monitored treatment plan.
 You consistently attempt to muddy the waters with statements like
 that above.  I don't give a flying hoot what your qualifications are
 in the field of addictions.  You don't have any, I repeat, ANY,
 credentials that give you any credibility to make pronouncements about
 ADD/ADHD.  When you are shown to be wrong you fall back on simplistic
 and pitiful attempts to down play someone else's experience and
 knowledge.
 JK> And I have long ago stopped being at all "nice" where the lives of
 JK> other people are constantly being placed at risk by those who don't
 JK> have the first clue as to what is wrong with them and what to do
 JK> about it.
 I know you for what you are Jane.  You are one of those all too
 familiar individuals with a smattering of training in one area who
 thinks that qualifies you to tell everyone else what to do about
 anything else.  You keep harping on the fact that you were trained as
 a nurse some 40 odd years ago.  I am not impressed.  I deal with RN's
 every working day and some of these are, to put it bluntly, not worth
 the powder it would take to blow them to hell.  I do not hesitate to
 tell these people, who without exception, have not done a single
 thing to update their credentials since they graduated from nursing
 school they are wrong.  It is nothing for me to refuse, and to require
 my staff to refuse, to implement some ding bat nurse's "order" when I
 and they know beyond any doubt it is wrong.  Don't wave your nurses
 license at me Jane as if it was the third tablet.  You have shown in
 here, over and over, that you don't know anything about ADD/ADHD.
 You have admitted you don't know who the leading medical experts in
 the field are.  You just plain don't know, so I will say this to you:
 "JK> Kindly leave this entire subject to those who do know or go find
 JK> courses that will enable you to form an opinion based on facts
 JK> instead of prejudice."
... Hey You!  Gene Police!  YES YOU!!  Out of the pool NOW!!
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