From: "Robert Comer" 

> You see even you deny it. You're obviously no better than Hamas.

There is no state called Palestine as of yet, it will be eventually, and I
support that actually, just not where the main part of Israel is.  As for
being no better than Hamas, I haven't gotten anyone to blow themselves up
ever, so it's a bit different...

> Ohhhhh 1948 borders....ummmm...boy oh boy are you sticking your head
> into a wasps nest.

Probably so, but that never bothered me before. ;-)

> It's not about listening it's about watching.

Implied by what I said.

> Zionism is an ideology much like Communism. Most ideologies run out of
> steam esp in the case of Zionism as the holocaust (where the Germans &
> Austrians etc did the killing & not the Arabs) drifts off ever further
> into history.

Er, Jewish history goes WAY, WAY, further back than WWII, there's thousands
of years of history that show that it wont be going away anytime soon.
Their current form of government may change, of course, but they will not
go away, ever.

> I suggest that the Israeli Palestinian conflict will become a bit like
> the Franco German one & will probably end the same way (with an "ever
> closer union" following on from a truly appalling blood letting).

Probably so.  (sounds like Revelations...)

--
Bob Comer


"Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in message
news:44696e49{at}w3.nls.net...
> Robert Comer wrote:
>>> Hey Palestine would still be there. Jerusalem, Acre, Haifa etc aren't
>>> going anywhere, it's just the government which would change a lot.
>>
>> There isn't a Palestine, so how can it still be there?
>>
>
> You see even you deny it. You're obviously no better than Hamas.
>
> Who says Palestine has stopped existing? When Hitler invaded the
> Netherlands & occupied them, did the Netherlands stop existing because
> Hitler had said they were part of the Reich?
>
> Did Poland cease to exist?
>
>>> & if you're an Eretz Israel bod Israel is breaking up.
>>
>> That's a valid point, but not from the definition of Israel after WWII,
>> only
>> after the local wars.
>>
>
> Ohhhhh 1948 borders....ummmm...boy oh boy are you sticking your head
> into a wasps nest.
>
>
>>> Hohum. Again, the place is still there, just the name changed
& the gov
>>> changed "a lot".
>>
>> If you think Israel is going to do that you haven't been listening...
>>
>
> It's not about listening it's about watching.
>
> Zionism is an ideology much like Communism. Most ideologies run out of
> steam esp in the case of Zionism as the holocaust (where the Germans &
> Austrians etc did the killing & not the Arabs) drifts off ever further
> into history.
>
> The sad thing is that the israelis have been swept along believing their
> own hype. Most unfortunately they've managed to sell the US on it as
> well & as such they think that long term they are in a position to
> dictate rather than getting a good deal now they seem to want absolutely
> as much as they can get even up to the point of guaranteeing a future war.
>
> I suggest that the Israeli Palestinian conflict will become a bit like
> the Franco German one & will probably end the same way (with an "ever
> closer union" following on from a truly appalling blood letting).
>
> Adam

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