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from: Alan Beagley
date: 2004-10-19 11:29:14
subject: Re: OT : Intel Cancels New 4Ghz P4

I've read that some AMD-powered machines don't work well with OS/2. Is 
that problem solved, or do we still have to be more careful about buying 
AMD?

And what about multi-processor AMD-powered machines?

-=-
Alan


On 10/17/04 01:18 am enorbet put fingers to keyboard and launched the 
following message into cyberspace:

>  >Hmmm. Does "stamping multiple processors on a single
chip" result in a
>  >multi-processor machine? Time to start saving for the SMP add-on for eCS?

>   I wouldn't bother unless it was determined that the software I run can
> benefit *substantially* from SMP.  Even when two discrete processors (
> or more ) are run, the gains are not even remotely linear for most
> desktop applications.  If you've been reading about what's going on in
> CPU design lately you can see that Intel is scrambling due to a number
> of show stopper problems.  They adopted AMDs platform for 64 bit ( and
> why shouldn't they? AMD's works and Intel's was a disaster ) they
> reduced instructions per clock settling for higher clock speeds (
> knowing most buyers oversimplify and buy clock speed ) and have even had
> to introduce a new form factor to do anything they can think of to deal
> with runaway thermal issues.  IMHO INtel is buying time because the real
> solutions to these problems are still at least a year away.  In the
> meantime the DEC Alpha boys AMD hired seem to be kicking serious butt
> with every release.  Even the most Intel jaded reviewers, both websites
> and magazines, has had to admit that AMDs "performance rating" has
> proven to be accurate and that "bang for buck", albeit at a lesser
> margin than when AMD was still a "me too" company, is what AMD is
> suceeding at and continually improving.  Just the fact that AMD managed
> to create a 64 bit processor that suffers virtually no penalty running
> 32 bit instructions while INtel wrestled fruitlessly for so long, is
> good reason to consider AMD for the near future.
> 
>   Incidentally I own both AMD and Intel machines and have no axe to
> grind, but then I never defined myself as a "Ford man" or a
"Chevy man"
> either.  If we ever needed proof that competition is rough on
> competitiors ( while driving them to new heights ) and great for
> consumers, we only have to look at Pricewatch.com to see that now more
> than ever incredible processing power is available for little expense,
> especially in the high-midrange.  There are some businesses and special
> interests that are relatively locked in to Intel, but desktop users most
> definitely have viable choice.



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