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From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">
Robert G Lewis wrote:
>> Because they already have a nationality. Jordan owned the West Bank till
>> 67 thus the west bankers have a claim to Jordanian nationality. Even
>> then though it's limited to those born before 67 & born in the West Bank
>> etc & not Gaza.
>
> So why do the arab nations deny the right of arabs born in palestine to
> apply and become citizens ?
>
Because that would be rewarding Israeli ethnic cleansing. We gave asylum to
Bosnians, Kosovars etc. We did not give them British nationality.
>
>>>> So If I am born in say in London & & grow up in
London & then I am
>>>> forced to France by men with guns I am thus unable to
return to London
>>>> even if I marry a Londoner?
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>> If you are an enemy of the New London country then why should they let
>>> you
>>> in ?
>>>
>> Ah right just because I am an Arab I am an enemy? Interesting. This is
>> the argument the White South Africans used too when they sent all the
>> blacks to "their" bantustans. I take it you were in
favour of that too
>> given how obviously Black africans born in say Johannesburg has no real
>> claim to live in Johannesburg given they were black ergo they were "an
>> enemy" of the Republic van Suid Afrika.
>
> Not what I said. Notice the use of the word IF at the start of the sentence.
> I did not automatically declare you to be an enemy ( or an Arab for that
> matter). Given the actions of the PLO , Hamas etc over the last 60 years I
> could understand why Israel may consider them enemies though. ( and even why
> the Arab nations consider Israel an enemy)
>
This law & the judgment on it do not start with an IF. If does not come into it.
>
>>> A lot of the countries in the world restrict who can enter, live and
>>> become
>>> citizens. I seem to recall one country sending its citizens around the
>>> world
>>> to live.
>>>
>> Indeed. Not many restrict the list to those born there though & who are
>> currently grabbing land off those living there & then deciding that
>> guess what...they can't come back coz dey is per se "the enemy".
>
> Oh like the Arab countries and their Jewish citizens ? How many of the Arab
> nations still deny the existence of Israel ? Looked at any Saudi textbooks
> recently ?
>
How many Israeli text books deny the existence of Palestine? You have one
piece of land. You have 2 groups claiming it all (& Israel does claim
it all but is being forced to disgorge little bits). Assuming you support
one side then it follows that the other side is not a real country etc.
Even now the West & Israel carry on with "the Palestinian
Areas", the "Palestinian Authority" etc.
>> What's the OK determiner for you given it ain't where you, your parents
>> etc are born etc? Skin colour? Religion? Ethnicity?
>>
>> Hey maybe you could ban Jews from the US even those born there coz of
>> their religion, name etc. That sounds like it'd be fine by you.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> Adam
>
> Ah Adam , reading things that aren't there.
>
>
Not at all. These people are being banned from living there basically
because that is where they come from. They are being banned purely on the
basis of ethnicity. If they were Jewish they'd be given money to move
there. But they're Arab & as such.....this is a white I mean Jewish
area....
Adam
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