Hello Rod!



 AW>>> I can continue to spend time posting stats, which you will continue

 AW>>> to dismiss as bodgy and unrepresentative. Or you will suggest that

 AW>>> 'many medical specialist disagree' without being more specific. It's

 AW>>> wearing me down, like I imagine the water torture would. We've had a

 AW>>> good exchange of ideas, but we're now stuck on the semantics.



 RS>> Nope, just you indulging in a copout when you cant substantiate your

 RS>> claims, like that bike riding is uniquely good for health over

 RS>> swimming or walking.



Whoopsy Daisy! Guess who never made a blanket claim that bike riding was
uniquely good for health over swimming or walking.



 AW>> This is a similar circumstance to the one in Avtech where you were

 AW>> irritated at people when they assumed you thought analogue clocks and

 AW>> devices were useless, when all you had apparently done was claim that

 AW>> digital ones could be read quickly. I've never said walking or

 AW>> swimming were useless.



 RS> What you actually said was



Jeez Rod, if you'd taken a closer look at what you've dredged up, you

might have sees the error you've made in trying to extrapolate my list

of benefits for a certain section of the community to include everyone.



 RS>> Quite apart from ignoring the other alternative forms of exercise for

 RS>> people like that, walking or swimming. Classic example of bodgy

 RS>> arguments IMO, special pleading. If the justification for spending

 RS>> heaps on bikes in traffic is based on such a bodgy premise, I rest my

 RS>> case.



 AW>> Walking and swimming superficially provide viable alternatives.

 AW>> However when you look the mechanics of walking, the advantage of

 AW>> cycling becomes apparent. When walking, the leg receives the whole of

 AW>> the body weight when it lands, as the weight is transferred to the leg

 AW>> through the hip. Because the transfer of the weight is done rapidly,

 AW>> the acceleration of the impact increases the weight. This vertical

 AW>> loading is the main culprit in osteo-arthritic pain.



                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                    So cycling may have unique benefits for these people!



 AW>> In cycling, the weight of the body is supported by the seat. This means

 AW>> that the hip joint is relieved of much of the vertical loading.

 AW>> Swimming is a better option than walking, but many people simply don't

 AW>> appreciate immersing themselves in a solution of watered down chlorine

 AW>> and urine. It's also less convenient if you don't live close to the

 AW>> pool, or are unwilling to pay for the use of the pool. Most people have

 AW>> a bike in the garage, which makes bike riding a quite economical

 AW>> option.



 RS> Sure, that doesnt say that swimming and walking are useless, and I never

 RS> said you said that, just that you claimed unique benefits for riding.

 RS> Those two paras above appear to be doing just that.



There is no doubt that cycling does provide unique benefits - to
osteo-arthritis sufferers that might find swimming inconvenient.

You seem to be missing the point that this is a long way removed

from claiming benefits for everyone.



 RS> No similarity to the digital watch case at all IMO. Just faking on your

 RS> part.



You've been afflicted with a bad case of misquoting. Can't you see that

there is a difference between someone claiming benefits for arthritis

suffers, with someone claiming benefits for everyone?



 AW>> I mentioned some possibilities where an osteo-arthritis sufferer may

 AW>> be better off riding a bike, rather than jarring the joint(s) through

 AW>> walking, or stuffing around in the pool. I didn't claim that cycling

 AW>> was uniquely good for health. In fact if you can find a clean pool,

 AW>> and you don't mind watching a boring black line for an hour a day,

 AW>> swimming may indeed be a better choice.



 RS> Faking again, if thats not claiming unique benefits for riding over

 RS> walking, I'm damned if I know what would be. And its not agreed by the

 RS> medical people that the walking jarring is a particular problem.

 RS> Jogging, yes, walking, no.



No faking at all. What I was stating was that there are some unique

benefits for osteo-arthritis sufferers that may not like swimming.

You're confusing claiming unique benefits for dodgy hip sufferers, with

claiming unique benefits for the population at large.





Regards, Alan



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