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to: TONY SZABLOWSKI
from: GARY SAFFER
date: 1997-01-03 17:10:00
subject: THE NEW RELM SCANNER

TS>Well, I like it when my g/f's with me.  She doesn't have to keep
TS>asking me what agency the scanner stopped on.   And it's nice
TS>because then _I_ don't have to remember what freq is for what town,
TS>especially when something happens in a town that I usually don't
TS>listen to, I don't have to remember the freq when searching for it on
TS>the scanner.  That's about all it was meant for anyway, I guess.
For those few circumstances, I developed a simple data base using 
Microsoft Access. So, if there is one that I can't recall off hand I 
just look it up. 
TS>-> Yeah, it's not bad. If you want to disable the tone for a single
TS>-> channel all you have to do is stop on the channel, enter the
TS>-> programming mode and enter "00" as the tone. Unlike the 760, you
TS>Yep. Same with my Uniden.  All ya gotta do is remember the tone ya
TS>had on there before ya wiped it.  No biggie.
No biggie at all. Most of the agencies around here use one of three 
tones. This goes back to the mid '70s when they started to change over 
to regional systems and wanted a common band of frequencies with a 
common tone to make intersystem communications easier. Then, it was a 
much bigger deal to have multiple tones, requiring a multi level control 
head for the mobiles, and a bigger, multi zone portable so that they 
could switch tones. Far simpler to use a common tone. Now, with CPU 
controlled radios that allow for multiple modes, multiple tones, and all 
sorts of goodies, it is less of a priority. In fact, some frequencies 
are being reused with different tones by towns that are just far enough 
apart so that with different PLs they will not interfere with each 
other. This is one of the reasons that I want the tone capability in a 
scanner. In some cases, I can pick up different agencies operating on 
the same frequency, but with different PLs. Of course, there is always 
one that I don't want to hear, and that is usually the busiest, or at 
least most annoying one! With the tone capable scanner, I don't have 
that problem. 
TS>You know Gare, while reading your above sentence there, I thought
TS>that it would be nice to write to a major scanner manufacturer and
TS>tell him all the "goodies" a scanner should have.  Then, to have it
TS>arrive and the UPS guy tells me it's for free.  Why?  Because I
TS>helped the company design possibly the best scanner out there.
TS>"Dream on........"  LOL! 
It would be nice to think that they at least listen to us when they sit 
down to design a new radio, that would be enough for me. Although, your 
thought would be nice too!
TS>My Radio Shack 2032 is capable of programming delay on a
TS>channel-channel basis.  I love it when listening to trunked and
TS>"normal" channels.  Oh well, I guess we can't have everything yet.
That always seemed to be a Regency thing. I always seem to remember that 
Bearcats had individual channel delay capability. 
TS>-> That's what it does, which is a pain. It would have been better if
TS>-> it just locked the programming keys ala the 760. However, if I
TS>-> didn't mention it, in addition to the manual button on the key
TS>-> board, there is a channel selector knob on the top of the radio.
TS>-> This not only selects channels, but during programming can be used
TS>-> to select tone, if you don't have the chart handy.
TS>That's nice.  Not bad.
Very nice, and comes in handy when you are trying to quickly lock onto a 
channel to catch interesting traffic. 
TS>-> Exactly. For conventional PL, that isn't a problem since I know
TS>-> almost all of the ones that I want, and because of the way most of
TS>-> the regional systems are set up, I can figure out the rest.
TS>-> However, with DPL it's a major problem. However, a friend of mine
TS>-> has a scanner with a tone reader, so he is going to try to
TS>-> research some of the agencies with DPL in this area.
TS>Then I would do that and see if he can get you the DPL's on the
TS>freq's you want instead of buying the big Scanner Master book.
I would hate to have to buy the Scanner Master book just for the DPLs. I 
know that the book also has other information, but most of that I have 
from my years in the hobby. I have collected code, unit ID, and other 
information, and have a pretty good collection for my listening area. 
TS>-> I didn't know that Scanner Master listed DPL too. I am going to
TS>-> see what my friend can come up with before I drop the big bucks on
TS>-> a Scanner Master book.
TS>Yep.  DPL and CTCCS(sp?) is listed, at least for the one I have that
TS>covers NY\NJ area.
I haven't bought a Scanner Master since the fourth edition, and that one 
only listed CTCSS info, not DPL. Maybe I should spend the bucks for a 
new one, but probably won't.
TS>-> There hasn't been much mention of it here, but on the Usenet
TS>-> newsgroups, there is a lot of talk about a Uniden scanner due out
TS>-> in the spring that will supposedly follow Motorola trunking
TS>-> systems. However, I decided I would rather buy this now, and
TS>-> possibly sell it in the spring if the Uniden radio really
TS>-> develops.
TS>That sounds good.   Boy...you got me thinking about selling my RS2032
TS>and getting one of these badboys.   I've been waiting for a HH
TS>with tone ability ....and now this baby's also got DPL as well!?
TS>Gotta do it, gotta do it.   
The Uniden radio is supposed to be called the BC235, and is a hand held. 
From what I have read it will do up to ten different trunking systems 
(Motorola only). What I don't know is if it will do conventional systems 
too, although I suspect it will. No word on PL or DPL either. 
TS>Thanks for the info Gare and good luck with the unit,
You are welcome. BTW, I found a RS scanner case that is an almost 
perfect fit. Model number 20-508. It's available as a special order 
part, and takes about a week to ship. 
Gary
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