Replying to a message of Tony Ingenoso to Geo.:

 TI> From: "Tony Ingenoso" 

 TI> Absolutely we are responsible - we stopped advancing at the 38th
 TI> parallel and didn't treat the PRC's and their intervention as it
 TI> should have been treated.

Actually, our forces got all the way to overlooking the Yalu River on the
southern coast and to Chosin Reservoir in then north-central peninsula. 
Then a couple of million Chinese Red Army 'volunteers' walked across the
Yalu and pushed our forces back south.  The front stabilized approximately
where the border is now.  IIRC the only reason Kim agreed to the armistice
is that Vandegrift threatened to start advancing north again behind
*massive* air, sea and artillery bombardments; they'd already started to do
that on a relatively small scale and were quite literally grinding up those
Chinese 'volunteers' by the hundreds.

 TI>  Even 50 years ago the UN were a bunch of
 TI> pathetic wimps willing to allow the seeds of future problems
 TI> to take hold for the sake of political expedience.

Not too much different from any politicians, expedience over principle.

whorde (hord), collective noun: a group of two or more politicians.

 TI> So here we are...50 years later, farting around with the
 TI> same batch of foaming at the mouth loons threatening the
 TI> same sort of things they did back then and never really
 TI> stopped doing.  They dug a number of several miles long
 TI> invasion tunnels under the DMZ large enough to pass tanks
 TI> and armor ferchrisakes.  They're frothing nutters, the whole
 TI> lot.  We should have dealt with them definitively back in the
 TI> 50's with nukes when we had the chance and the edge.

Perhaps not with nukes.  We had enough conventional ordnance left over from
WWII to pretty much make South Korea an island (which, incidentally, is one
solution to the problems between north and south Korea).  We were still
using WW II munitions well into at least the late 1960s (in fact some of
the 16" rounds New Jersey used during its tour off Vietnam were made
in the *early* 1940s) and AFAIK there may *still* be some of it laying
around.

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