-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 WC>> The idea of being able to browse and download mail off the
 WC>> net in Linux on such a small install is most attractive.

 Now I have to slap it permanently on the hard drive.
 Downloaded days or a week ago but just messed with
 it today. I got the damned thing unzippped, loaded, 
 setup and looked up my local weather page URL in about the time it 
 would have taken Win 3.1 and Communicator to load
 and dial!!!
 Talk about painless Linux!

 CA>> It is quite fast using LINKS. 
 
No kidding, vimage was loading the radar image of my
local radar just in time to cue me to walk the dog
before the rain!
For this kid it's very soon to be bye bye MicroSoft!
I mean I'll keep 3.1 but see no reason at all to 
_upgrade_ endlessly to an expensive buggy product
when freeware is well... free :-)
Besides if I find a lousy bug I can just fix it myself
and recompile.
First order of business on committing to this course is some
thorough research into Linux security issues.
Right now 85 percent of my e-mail is spam, 8 percent
malicious code and 7 percent something I'm looking for :-(

 CA>> I even added a second
 CA>> ramdrive and was downloading QWK packets, using ATP to
 CA>> reply, and uploading them back again with ztelnet. It
 CA>> works quite well actually.

I've other stuff I've got to do but imagine I'll have a
version of Linux on this machine in less than a month that
suits all my current needs.

 WC> I like ramdrives :-) I'll snag LINK's as well than if not
 WC> in the package.

 CA> LINKS, POP3/SMTP email, the pico editor, and another editor
 CA> whose name I forget right now, are all there in the package.

 Whatever the default editor it seems to work fine but I'll
 be studying up on my VI commands soon enough.
 The only problem I ran into was a lockup when my CMOS
 power saver features kicked in. 
 I was happy that the three finger salute initiated
 the Linux shutdown command first before reboot.
 Perhaps a coincidence or screwup on my part but currently those
 CMOS power saver features are switched off, no problems since.

 CA> For FIDO the telnet must be replaced by the available addon
 CA> ztelnet and, of course, an offline reader and InfoZip to
 CA> compress/uncompress the QWK packets has to be added.

 Next mini-project after moving the ramdrive basic
 Linux to the hard drive.
 I've already the ztelnet package here, just not loaded it
 yet.

 CA>> The ATP OLR I use compiles for DOS, Linux, BSD, and a few
 CA>> others so using ATP was good for me even if it wasn't my
 CA>> modified version.

I'll keep that one in mind as well as MultiMail.

 WC> I used to download QWK's on Linux minicomm and save to a
 WC> DOS partition. MultiMail is also Linux friendly so I'll
 WC> have to snag the source code.

 WC> Some of the phreaking web sites I run into these days are
 WC> anything but standard code and it's getting to the point
 WC> where you _need_ DSL or cable to log onto some sites.

 CA> When using the OPERA browser shutting down graphics loading is
 CA> a click on the toolbar. In Netscape killing graphics still
 CA> downloads them, they just don't display - not much help really.

 Is there a release of Opera for Linux? Never mind I know
 their URL and will check myself.
 Is anyone writing a Linux native browser that adheres
 to proper web page standards.
 LINKS for right now however is supercool, next time 
 I'm on I'll have to see what Tom's Hardware site 
 looks like with LINKS and no graphics by default.

 CA> I'm from the old school. Software can be as complex as the
 CA> programmer wants to make it but the user interface should be
 CA> 'intuitive' or at worst consistent enough for users to
 CA> eventually 'learn' where to find the functions to make it work.
 
 I agree which is why I really like Free Agent.
 What kind of newsgroup readers does Linux offer?
 
 
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