From: "John Beamish" 

Ahhhhh ... now I understand what you're talking about.  Oh, yeah,
definitely:  both channels carry the same Canadian feed.  You're absolutely
right about that.  And, btw, you and I have exactly the same grumble.

I'd be interested to hear what your son says.  My late cousin worked for
CBC and, although it was on the radio side, he would certainly have known
who to talk to on the TV side.

"Doug Bryce"  wrote in message
news:3e60045e.10414232{at}news.barkto.com...
> I think we're talking about different things here, John.   I agree
> that you will see differences when shows are on at different times.
>
> But.....
>
> Do this experiment - assuming you're on cable (I don't know if this
> applies to a dish).  Find a show that's on a Canadian channel and a US
> channel at the same time (the first CSI is a good one - I *think* 'The
> Simpsons' is another one, in Ontario at least......you'll find the
> Canadian feed on both of your cable channels.  And that's what my
> grumbling was/is about.  I can live with the fact that I might lose
> the preview of next week's episode if I *choose* to watch the Canadian
> channel....I have a *major* problem with being forced to watch the
> Canadian channel even though I have tuned my TV to the US channel.
>
> As for the commercial time....I think we're actually lower in prime
> time than is the US.  My son also thinks so and he's studying TV
> production in college right now (first year) ....he's out at the
> moment, but I'll ask him if that's come up in his classes.
>
> Cheers
>
> Doug
>
> (If you want to take this 'offline' my address is good)
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:38:32 -0500, "John Beamish"
>  wrote:
>
> >I do not think so.
> >
> >(It's not a lot -- something like 30 seconds -- but that's why we don't
get
> >to see a trailer for the next episode and the Americans do.  You can
check
> >this out occasionally when CTV is broadcasting something against West
Wing.
> >It'll be on CTV at 8:00 and then on the US channel at 9:00.  The US
> >channel -- the times I watched -- did show a "coming next
week" while CTV
> >did not.)
> >
> >(This is one of those rare occasions when I wish I had Tivo.)
> >
> >
> >"Doug Bryce"  wrote in message
> >news:3e5ea6d8.4098728{at}news.barkto.com...
> >> Bzzzt ......'signal substitution' is *exactly* what
happens (I did
> >> forget to specify that this is on cable).
> >>
> >> For example, here in Hamilton, On we get the CTV affiliates in Toronto
> >> & Kitchener and there are several programs that they
simulcast against
> >> the same show on an American network (we get Buffalo NY).....we end up
> >> with *exactly* the same feed on 3 channels (including the annoying
> >> network logo in the bottom right corner - CTV).
> >>
> >> Last weekend, Fox ran the 'X-Men' movie as did CKVR in Barrie.....we
> >> got the Barrie feed.
> >>
> >> If memory serves me right, the rule came into beeing after the feds
> >> cancelled the tax credit for advertising time purchased on US
> >> stations.
> >>
> >> Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:11:14 -0500, "John Beamish"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >'signal substitution' is a slight misnomer.
> >> >
> >> >I believe we have more commerical minutes per hour than in the US.
Thus
> >the
> >> >Americans get to see teasers for the next episode, we get
a commercial
> >for
> >> >soup.
> >> >
> >> >"Doug Bryce" 
wrote in message
> >> >news:3e5d589d.10930299{at}news.barkto.com...
> >> >> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:52:41 -0500, "Geo."
 wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Doug Bryce"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >news:3e5ab772.21644179{at}news.barkto.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Is it too much regulation or the wrong kind
?    Or both ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >They seem to have this need to meddle in free
market situations
where
> >> >there
> >> >> >is lots of competition in a very effective
attempt to turn them
into
> >> >> >monopolies, then once they are monopolies they
try to turn them
back
> >into
> >> >a
> >> >> >competitive market with rules that have no effect at all.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If that's not enough, they also like to force
their morals on
everyone
> >> >> >without any representation of the masses.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure that our CRTC is heavily into the 'morals'
angle.....they
> >> >> *will* investigate viewer/listener complaints about
programming,
but
> >> >> don't seem to do too much.   When the first season
of The Sopranos
ran
> >> >> on *broadcast* TV up here, it ran with all of the requisite
> >> >> disclaimers about content (it ran unedited).   There
were a handful
of
> >> >> complaints and I think the CRTC's comment was that
there might have
> >> >> been one or two occasions where the disclaimer
didn't run (coming
out
> >> >> of commercial break) and should have done...and that was it.
> >> >>
> >> >> We have to deal with 'must carry' and 'signal
substitution' rules.
> >> >> We get stuck with every Canadian channel on 'basic'
service and most
> >> >> of our networks run their US-sourced programming at
the same time as
> >> >> the US networks.....so we get the Canadian feed on
both channels.
> >> >> PITA!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Doug
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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