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echo: 64_talk
to: Brett O`Callaghan
from: Kevin Picone
date: 1994-08-27 16:30:28
subject: Re: Questions for the die-hards!

Hi brett,

 BOC>>> I am seriously thinking of buying a very cheap 64+drive+dataset.
 KP>>  Firstly i'd check out cash converters in Sturt St if ya get the
 BOC>    Yeah, well I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get a very cheap 64 when
 BOC> I want, they are not exactly rare! 8^)

 Sure aint, hey maybe even get a c128 ... double the fun then .. 8^)

 KP>>  There are some problems between the two, Eg the SID chip in the
 KP>>  64C has had some bugs fixed in it, As a result some (very few in fact)
 KP>>  music replayers that use SAMPLES will not work 100%. there is a simple
 BOC>    I'd probably look for an old model then, the original and the best.
 BOC> 8^)

 yep ya should be able to find lots of these !... door stops all over
 australia.... that once great jingle comes to mind ..

 "Are you keeping up with a commodore" ? - thems where the days.
  
 BOC>>>    2.  Any way I could store the games on the 'ol XT (or amiga) and
 BOC>>> load them from the 64?  Sort of keeping the disk image files
 BOC>>> (ideally compressed) on the hard drive and fooling the 64 into
 BOC>>> thinking the XT was a 1541 or something.

 KP>>            Well NO, not if you intend upon loading realtime ?
 BOC>    Pity, I wouldn't have thought it'd be that difficult to write
 BOC> something on the PC to fool the 64 into thinking the data was coming
 BOC> from a 1541?

 I dont really know ?, as i read something about it the other day ?? maybe
 there is a method of doing it ??? i think one the guys in here said
 something about it ?? sorry dont remember who ! 


 KP>>  The best option and the one i use is the RS232 interface, all ya do is
 KP>>  run 2 comms programs either end, and away ya go. but be warned
 KP>>  the transfers are only at 2400 (or lower). which is Ok i guess 
 KP>>  for 64 files.
 BOC>    Bit messy, I'd prefer to fill the old XT up with disk images than
 BOC> have dozens of 5.25's lying around.  I figure that you can fit several
 BOC> 160K disks on a 20M drive.

 Yeah well i would to, but if its not possible .. well then maybe this
 is the next best thing. ?  painful i know , but ya get used to it.

 I use it to port 64 files to Amiga ...relive the past 

 Althought DAN's got the cable right now so i guess ill have to crank up
 the c128 again to relive some glory days..

 KP>>  A handy hint would be it lay your hands upon a ACTION REPLAY mark 6
 KP>>  and use its fast loader ... 2-3 second 240 block file loads . very 
 KP>>  impressive stuff.
 BOC>    Yeah, I had a Freeze Machine that was pretty impressive as I
 BOC> remember.

 There are some kick ass little carts getting around, imagine coding the
 software within the cart..  what a nightmare that would be.

 KP>>  You must be careful though, remember it may have been 5 or more years
 KP>>  since you saw a 64 game .. 16 colours, multi colour resolution of just
 KP>>  160*200. fond memories may not turn out as expected.
 BOC>    Funny thing that.  The thing the really convinced me was the
 BOC> pixel-perfect conversion of the original Impossible mission included
 BOC> in the Amiga IMP2025- in terms of fun gameplay it shits all over the
 BOC> new game!
 
 I still think it has certain charm also , i didnt see IM 2015 sorry
 had a version just didnt work 8( ... at the time i didnt even think that
 it was the revision of the the original classic.. opps

 KP>>  Yep they still develop games for it, (17-18 million 64's were sold)
 BOC>    Wow!
 
 Um dan said that figure may be a couple of million under ... makes ya 
 wonder doesnt it.... why couldnt they have spent a bit of time upon 
 the c64 when the amiga hit the streets !... maybe the infamous c65
 would today be the most popular home computer ???? who knows..

 Its a pity the C128 never really got a chance either.
 
 KP>>  As for Fun , yes i must agree , GAME PLAY & CREATIVELY where the
 KP>>  names of the day. it is a time we will never see again .... 
 BOC>    Damn straight.
 KP>>  For there now exists a computer generation that will look upon this
 KP>>  time as their woodstock - something truely special.
 BOC>    Interesting way of looking at it! 8^)

 Boy we must be getting old ...8^)

 KP>>  I guess if worst comes to worst - you could run am emulator .. yeah
 KP>> yeah i know there slow and cumbersome .. but for some games they work
 KP>>  well in deed. 
 BOC>    Trying to get hold of a 64 file to try on an Emulator is the tricky
 BOC> bit! 8^)

 um if ya like i can send ya some (i think theres some on the HD ??) to
 have a play with ... nothing great .. its just fun watching your nice
 new hardware play really really really old c64 games ...

 C ya,

 Kev.


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