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to: DAVID HARDING
from: STEPHEN TURNER
date: 1998-03-30 01:58:00
subject: Re: The vilification of stan the man

DJ> Im willing to concede that a great deal of the early marvels were
DJ> indeed, scripted by Lees brother Larry Lieber, but one must admit,
DJ> that  None of kirbys DC work, had as good  scripting as The thors
DJ> & ff's that Lee scripted.
DH> 
DH> I've never heard that before.  Stan Lee didn't actually write a
DH> lot of the books attributed to him?
DH> 
ST> Are you kidding??!! I saw him once on a local media-mouthpiece
ST> talk show once, and he couldn't even keep his characters
ST> straight!! Apparently, he hasn't had a hands-on participation in
ST> Marvel for quite some time.
DH> 
ST> Like for the past 30 years.....
DH> 
DH>     When Stan Lee stopped writing comics is a matter of history... and
DH> it happened a long time ago.  All I was saying was that I didn't know
DH> that a number of the stories credited to him were not, in fact,
DH> written by him.
DH> 
DH>     Besides, I think comic fans can, out of respect for his
DH> contributions to comics, cut the man a little slack when it comes to
DH> his memory.  After all, the Marvel Universe he helped create is the
If I'm not mistaken, "Stan The Man" has been at least three people....PLUS
that character Marie Severin did that looks like Hal Linden mixed with
Robert Goulet. Jack Kirby did a version of him that was so far removed from
what MIGHT be reality that it isn't funny! 
I remember seeing a supposed picture of him in either Rolling Stone or ONE
of the hipper magazines of the late sixties/early seventies that looked
like Hal Prince, and as we've seen on the cartoon shows, he's NOW a wizened
old turkey with bad hairweaving. Now, either the schmuck's a chameleon, or
there's been more than one Stan Lee!
DH>     Besides, I think comic fans can, out of respect for his
DH> contributions to comics, cut the man a little slack when it comes to
DH> his memory.  After all, the Marvel Universe he helped create is the
DH> better part of 40 years old now... I think Stan Lee can be forgiven
DH> for not being able to instantly recall names and facts.  Let's see how
DH> good our memories are when we get to be Stan's age.
Gee, I wonder who was writing for Roy Thomas.....(g)
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