-=> ROY J. TELLASON wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 RJT> I gotta see if I can hunt up a copy of "office" for 3.1...

Never had that, just MSword and MSmoney.

 WC> Full featured Netscape Communicator stands at about 32 Meg., after
 WC> clearing cache memory.

 RJT> I forget on which box I installed that,  might've been linux at one
 RJT> point,  but I don't see the need for "Communicator" and
most of the
 RJT> stuff it gives you. I'd rather stick with "Navigator", 
if I could find
 RJT> the latest version of it for whatever platform,  it's a whole lot
 RJT> leaner.  For email,  news,  etc. I'll be happy to run other programs.

Well I could easily do without the newsgroup reader
selecting instead "Free Agent" which is sleeker and slicker
but would have to retain the mail app. unless I bought 
Free Agent to get the full mail package.
I like Composer however as not being well versed in HTML
I can't just use an text editor.

 WC> SimTel is an excellent place to snare freeware or shareware and
 WC> it's mirrored all over the world with a *nix based file directory
 WC> everything is easy to find.

 RJT> Definitely one to bookmark when I get connected more...
 
They are easy to find and everything is logically broken down
into subdirectories starting with O.S. than the general
nature of the programs to be found in subdirectories.
SimTel carries just about every utility, diagnostic, 
Freeware and Shareware program you could imagine including that 
monitor diagnostic that currently eludes me.

 WC> I've found freeware diagnostic software at SimTel that'll tell you
 WC> what your monitor can handle though usually there's a disclaimer
 WC> about risk of the higher resolutions and refresh rates and you
 WC> should only run them briefly and at your own risk.

 RJT> What software is that?

 WC> I _may_ have it on this drive as I recall a monitor.zip file, we'll
 WC> see, otherwise I'll have to do a net search for SimTel, Diagnostic,
 WC> Video, Monitor.

 RJT> I just wondered if you happened to recall the name of the package.

 Well I've not got it here :-(
 Next time I slave that damaged drive I'll have a look, if I
 swapped the low profile case for my original one I could just
 leave that drive in instead of sitting it on the power supply
 of the open case.

 RJT> It's not a driver issue with me as much as a config file issue.  You
 RJT> start looking at setting up X without the automated utilities to do it
 RJT> for you and you'll see what I mean.  :-)

 WC> We didn't have much in the way of stinking automated setup
 WC> utilities in Linux Slackware 1.1.59 except for the very most common
 WC> and basic stuff so I already know what you mean ;-)

 RJT> Did that even come with X?

Yes it supports X-Windows however never got past configuring that 
Headlands Tech. video card, as I still have the disk likely
no problem on this motherboard and video card but just
now I've only 130 Meg. free on a small drive so...

 RJT> I noticed that a nontrivial amount of these were in HTML format,
 RJT> so I ended up putting together a big root page and tying all this
 RJT> other stuff into it,  plus things like the HOWTO files and
 RJT> whatnot.  I can even pull man pages into that, there's a form you
 RJT> fill out and submit and it pulls the man page into HTML format.
 RJT> Kinda cool,  running my own web server software here...  :-)

 WC>  Yes that sounds like a really nice feature.

 RJT> Feature?  It ain't a featue,  it's stuff I *did*.  :-)

Oh I caught that, it's merely a feature _you_ added and you've my
respect for being proficient in that O.S. as it is somewhat
challanging.
 
 WC> I recently got _very_ organized when that worm hit and I started
 WC> from scratch.

 RJT> That doesn't tend to work with me,  when I had that hardware problem
 RJT> this past summer I ended up getting as close to what I had as I could
 RJT> manage,  and it's still pretty much there...

 Oh I've pretty much the same software as well however no longer
 all the .ini files, .DLL's and registry entries from programs I've
 previously deleted bloating things up, the registry is less than 
 half it's former size as well.

 WC> protect me from that crap. Do you suppose the anti-virus companies
 WC> subcontract the idiots that write malicious code to sell their
 WC> wares ;-)

 RJT> Dunno about that,  unless they came out with one that was able to deal
 RJT> with some of the stuff that's coming along,  which you seem to be
 RJT> saying that they're not doing.

 I was being a bit cynical and sarcastic, antivirus companies DO
 offer solutions and freeware utilities to the worm in question 
 only they no longer support solutions for Win 3.1.
 NT, 2000, 90 and 95 all have freeware removal tools available.
 Looks like Verizon finally caught hold as no malicious attachments
 in the last few days :-)

 WC> OTOH I once had a really cool detailed graphics demo with sound
 WC> that ran for around 10 minutes before repeating written on a Mac
 WC> that fit on a 1.44 diskette! Kind of a Rube Goldberg Monty
 WC> Pythonish sort of thing with lots of color and progressive intricate
 WC> animated objects added. Towards the end there were some amusing
 WC> comments to fellow graphics hackers and an invite to a convention
 WC> in some place like Norway.

 RJT> Ever run a screen saver called Dazzle?  That does an amazingly complex
 RJT> display with all sorts of effects,  and never seems to repeat that I've
 RJT> noticed.  I even stuck a copy of it on the w98 box,  though I haven't a
 RJT> clue as to how to make an .exe into a screensaver there,  so I can't
 RJT> have it invoked automatically.

Sol Mirco_something or other_ offered an early high powered video 
solution called the Dazzler which supported a program called "Life"
if that's what you're talking about.
 
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