Hello Frank!

19 Aug 04 16:53, you wrote to Michael Grant:

 FV> Absolutely incorrect. Even an Internet dummy like me understands that
 FV> much. :)

 FV> When, or if, some server/client connect to a dns server it simply asks
 FV> "Where do I find dope.com?" If there is a CNAME for that
domain, the
 FV> dns server tell the client to check "bubba.net". then the
client and
 FV> server disconnect. There is no forwarding of anything. It is a simple
 FV> question and answer session. Somewhat like dialing information and
 FV> asking the operator for the phone number to Mike Grant in .
 FV> The operator tells you the phone number and hangs up. It's then up to
 FV> you if you dial that number or not. And NO, the DNS server does not
 FV> offer to place the the call like an operator might. Don't go there.

Well said Frank, lets illustrate your theory..

traceroute to madmail.ods.org (137.186.254.168), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1  0.208 ms   0.179 ms   0.205 ms
 2  10.129.0.1  18.016 ms   18.661 ms   21.010 ms
 3  172.22.32.1  22.264 ms   24.473 ms   26.341 ms
 4  172.22.32.137  29.703 ms   31.650 ms   30.051 ms
 5  so-1-0.hsa2.Atlanta1.Level3.net (63.210.88.133)  13.887 ms   15.225 ms 
 23.424 ms
 6  ge-6-2-1.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net (64.159.3.73)  28.768 ms   32.248 ms 
 35.619 ms
 7  as-1-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.85)  48.844 ms   52.831 ms   63.650 ms
 8  ge-5-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.186)  64.755 ms   66.773 ms
  69.226 ms
 9  TELUS.gar2.Level3.net (4.78.174.2)  98.221 ms   100.480 ms   98.066 ms
10  mtlxpqvvbr00-mtrlpqfbbr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.237)  131.014 ms  
130.065 ms   93.182 ms
11  toroonnlbr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.29)  95.027 ms   97.937 ms   99.029 ms
12  wnpgmbabbr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.42)  96.410 ms   101.401 ms   103.997 ms
13  wnpgmb38br00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.50)  108.101 ms   114.469 ms   121.531 ms
14  clgrab21br01.bb.telus.com (154.11.10.157)  125.506 ms   126.798 ms   128.735 ms
15  * * *
16  clgrab31dr01.bb.telus.com (205.233.111.88)  133.235 ms   135.575 ms   131.820 ms
17  154.11.97.198  133.543 ms   135.753 ms   134.112 ms
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *


traceroute to f10.n134.z1.nl.sysgod.org (137.186.254.168), 30 hops max, 40
byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1  0.202 ms   0.192 ms   0.216 ms
 2  10.129.0.1  11.945 ms   12.170 ms   14.646 ms
 3  172.22.32.1  16.876 ms   19.627 ms   17.997 ms
 4  172.22.32.137  10.088 ms   9.084 ms   11.145 ms
 5  so-1-0.hsa2.Atlanta1.Level3.net (63.210.88.133)  19.025 ms   20.367 ms 
 23.000 ms
 6  ge-6-2-1.bbr1.Atlanta1.Level3.net (64.159.3.73)  24.844 ms   23.232 ms 
 24.763 ms
 7  as-1-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.85)  42.858 ms   41.457 ms   42.843 ms
 8  ge-5-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.186)  30.534 ms   32.892 ms
  30.119 ms
 9  TELUS.gar2.Level3.net (4.78.174.2)  65.817 ms   69.515 ms   72.279 ms
10  mtlxpqvvbr00-mtrlpqfbbr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.237)  104.009 ms  
102.404 ms   103.930 ms
11  toroonnlbr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.29)  102.348 ms   104.472 ms   102.869 ms
12  wnpgmbabbr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.42)  104.093 ms   104.018 ms   102.865 ms
13  wnpgmb38br00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.50)  103.999 ms   102.594 ms   104.554 ms
14  clgrab21br01.bb.telus.com (154.11.10.157)  103.028 ms   104.362 ms   107.307 ms
15  * * *
16  clgrab31dr01.bb.telus.com (205.233.111.88)  93.511 ms   91.718 ms   92.480 ms
17  154.11.97.198  98.102 ms   105.418 ms   109.321 ms
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

Yup, dont see any field trips to OZ!!

==
Ross
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