From: "Adam Flinton" 

WW1...It was a maker mostly famous for it's machine guns (very light for
the day thus used in aircraft). They also did pistols etc.

Adam


"Thees Peereboom"  wrote in message
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> Adam,
>
> Well, thanks. Are you sure a parabellum is a machinegun?
>
> - Thees Peereboom
>
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:21:46 -0000, "Adam Flinton"
>  wrote:
>
> > Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum - Vegetius (Epitoma Rei
> >Militaris)
> >
> >Short version:
> >
> >Si vis pacem, para bellum
> >
>
>http://ancienthistory.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.thel
a
> >tinlibrary.com/vegetius3.html
> >
> >para bellum gave it's name to a make of german machinegun.. (parabellum)
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >"Thees Peereboom"  wrote in message
> >news:rr537vg4n5ltnielhtnj0kjt1sqddipbh0{at}4ax.com...
> >> Will,
> >>
> >> It was not the fact in itself that made me react, but the fact that
> >> you based you reaction on communism, while there are so many other
> >> sources that would support your original claim.
> >>
> >> Von Clausewitz, Sun Tsu, etc. all direct in the same direction, 'who
> >> wants peace, prepares himself to war'.
> >>
> >> - Thees Peereboom
> >>
> >> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:20:00 -0500, "William F. Zachmann"
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >The principle is correct, Thees, even though it's relation to
Communism
> >is
> >> >as tenuous as it is non-essential.  Major changes in
social/political
> >> >alignments, historically, come from (or, at any rate, are
effectively
> >> >mediated by), military superiority.  That may very well
have social,
> >> >political, philosophical, religious, moral, spiritual, or whatever
> >aspects,
> >> >but all of the above, more often than not, also need military
advantage.
> >> >Muslims understand that quite well, as even a quite
superficial study
of
> >> >Islamic history clearly shows.  Cultures (in the broadest possible
sense)
> >> >unable to achieve military success do not very often leave much
behind.
> >And
> >> >when cultures do have influence despite contemporary military
weakness,
> >that
> >> >influence is generally founded on prior military
successes (e.g. the
> >Greeks
> >> >after Roman dominion was established; Islamic culture
after the Mongol
> >> >conquests; and so forth).
> >> >
> >> >All the best,
> >> >
> >> >will
> >> >
> >> >"Thees Peereboom" 
wrote in message
> >> >news:cvl17v8fcp6m3e4a81555mejpg4rj5h6ef{at}4ax.com...
> >> >> Will,
> >> >>
> >> >> It's quite obvious why one would cite from such a
succesfull concept
> >> >> as communism.
> >> >>
> >> >> - Thees Peereboom
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:20:06 -0500, "William F.
Zachmann"
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Depends on the relative retaliatory capacities
of the participants.
> >As
> >> >an
> >> >> >old Chinese philosopher once said [reaching for
my 1966 first
edition
> >> >copy
> >> >> >of his 'little red book']:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Every Communist must grasp the truth,
"Political power grows out of
> >the
> >> >> >barrel of a gun."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  "Problems of War and Strategy"
(November 6, 1938), Selected
Works,
> >> >Vol.
> >> >> >II, p. 224.
> >> >> >Mao understood that quite well.  So (luckily)
does President Bush.
> >And
> >> >Tony
> >> >> >Blair does, too.  Can't say as much for the French.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >All the best,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >will
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Adam Flinton"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >news:3e703a34$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> & then others get even back & you
get even back again & then
others
> >get
> >> >> >even
> >> >> >> back again &  the circle repeats.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Adam
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "William F. Zachmann"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:3e6fc782$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >> >> > We don't get mad, Phil.  We get even. 
Get used to it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Phil Payne"
 wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:3E6E4DF8.F849C266{at}isham-research.com...
> >> >> >> > >
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/10/congress.france.ap/
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > "Despite plenty of criticism
of France's resistance to U.S.
> >> >military
> >> >> >> > action
> >> >> >> > > in Iraq, Congress so far has done
little to move legislation
> >> >punishing
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > > country for its anti-war stance."
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > PUNISHING?!?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > --
> >> >> >> > >   Phil Payne
> >> >> >> > >   http://www.isham-research.com
> >> >> >> > >   +44 7785 302 803
> >> >> >> > >   +49 173 6242039
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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