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to: JAY P. HAILEY
from: AMY KING
date: 1997-09-30 10:26:00
subject: Nemesis Opinion

                        Spoiler For "Nemesis"
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 JPH> Summary:  Chakotay is stranded on a planet where a war is
 JPH> happening between human-like people and "predator" looking aliens. 
 JPH> At first resisting, Chakotay finds himself drawn into the conflict,
 JPH> identifying with the human like people.
Are we sure the other beings were human-like people?  Could they had made
Chakotay think they were human-like to get his sympathy.  After all, 
everything
but the last battle was simulated.  At the end of the episode, the
captain said that the Bories (spelling) had brain-washed people from other
races, too.  I wonder if the simulation would reflect an individual's race.
For example, if they had captured a Klingon, would the simulated people be
Klingons.  A Klingon would have a hard time fighting Alongside the Bories.
 JPH> One of the soldiers appraoches Chakotay and eventually manages
 JPH> to convince Chakotay to listen.  As the soldier talks before Chakotay
 JPH> he slowly fades into Tuvok.
 JPH> The punch line here is that the human-like people have brain
 JPH> washed Chakotay into hating the aliens.  None of what Chakotay
 JPH> experienced up until the final battle was real.  The rest was all the
 JPH> brainwashing techniques of the human-like people.  Chakotay begins to
 JPH> get free of their influence but still reacts with hatred to the alein
 JPH> ambassador who helped the Voyager recover him.
 JPH> My Take:  This episode was a wondeful set up.  The use of
 JPH> language for the human-like people was especially clever and neat.
 JPH> But the punch lime was a total, lame, weak cop-out.
 JPH> The analogy to Viet Nam is plain and clear at the outset.  An
 JPH> idea that might have been relevant:  In wartime, who the good guys
 JPH> and bad guys are is largely a matter of perspective.  It depends on
 JPH> where you are standing at the time.
 JPH> To use the viet nam analogy to question who Chakotay saw as
 JPH> good guys and bad guys would have made a wonderful story.  I.E.  give
 JPH> *both* sides a compelling reason to be fighting the war.
 JPH> In what we saw someone had to have a white hat and someone had
 JPH> to have a black hat.  It was just a matter of trying to fool us about
 JPH> who it was.
 JPH> I was terribly dissapointed by this episode.  It had some good
 JPH> stuff in it, but the end just didn't live up to it.
The episode hinted that perhaps there were no good or bad people in the
conflict, just two sets of people at war with each other.  Captain Janeway
told Chakotay that the "aliens" had accused the Bories of the same atrocities
that the Bories accused the "aliens" of.  I think part of the problem may be
that you can't do justice to this subject in an hour.  There just isn't 
nough
time.  On the other hand, I'm kind of glad they didn't delve too much into 
he
subject.  I watch Voyager for enjoyment, not for a philosophical debate.  I 
o
wish we had been told more about both sets of people, but basically I enjoyed
the episode.
Amy
 JPH> That's my opinion anyway.
 JPH> Jay 
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