On 2017-02-20, alister  wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 09:45:59 -0800, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/17 06:32, Ahem A Rivet's Shot so wittily quipped:
>>>  Wayland retains the hardware independence but throws away the
>>> network transparency, which almost certainly makes for a local display
>>> that performs better than X can.
>>
>> and Wayland removes the ability to run a GUI application on the RPi
>> while displaying it on another computer that's connected via a network
>> cable, something that _I_ do a _LOT_ on headless systems.  I want to be
>> able to connect my RPi via ethernet ONLY, no keyboard, no mouse, no
>> video.  Just the ethernet.  And from here, I can program it to do
>> _anything_.  And being able to run 'pluma' to edit system files, shell
>> scripts, python code, and so on *LOCALLY* on the RPi is a *HUGE*
>> benefit.  Wayland takes ALL of that AWAY.
>>
>> some of the BEST feature of the RPi surface when you run it as a
>> HEADLESS system, and for that, running GUI applications over the
>> ethernet is a HUGE benefit.
>>
>> FYI - if you haven't tried it, here's how it works:
>>
>> let's say your desktop computer is 192.168.1.50, and the RPi is
>> 192.168.1.51 .
>>
>> (on the RPI from a secure shell)
>> export DISPLAY=192.168.1.50:0.0
>>
>> (on 'your desktop computer' running the X11 server)
>> xhost +192.168.1.51
>>
>> (you may need to alter the X11 config a bit to make sure you can access
>> X11 on the network; check for port 6001 listening on your desktop
>> machine, and don't expose it to the outside world, i.e. block it at the
>> firewall)
>>
>>
>> then run an application like 'pluma' or even a web client like 'midori'.
>>  It will display on the desktop computer, and interact with the
>> keyboard/mouse there.  Enjoy!
>
> or s imply add the -X switch to the ssh command when you connect
> I have this as a default setting & agree that being able to forward the
> Gui of a remote application is something i would not want to do without,
> even if it is just something as simple as thunar for file management

There is a big difference in speed between X network transparency
and ssh -X.  The encryption/decryption and other overhead makes
ssh -X much slower.

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