"Jim McGinn"  wrote in message
>
> > OK stop there. Are you using the term "natural
selection" in this sense?
> >
> > "If I have a big bucket of beans of different sizes, and take some of
> > them out with a scoop, that is natural selection because a natural
> > process is selecting some of them?"
> >
> > Or would you restrict it to this sense?
> >
> > "If I have a big bucket of beans of diffferent sizes and take some of
> > themout with a sieve, so that smaller beans will tend to fall out, that
is
> > natural selection because the bigger beans are being selected for."
>
> I don't think either of these two examples is a good analogy for NS.
>
Why not? Say that we have policy that every season we take some beans out of
the big bucket and plant them, and use the rest of the beans for food.

Let's say that also we have two groups of farmers, one supplied with a
scoop, the other supplied with a sieve.

Now we have two evolutionary processes set up.

(You could object that this is not Natural Selection because human agency is
involved, is this your objection?)
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